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re: *Super Dee Duper Official X's and O's discussion of LSU vs Alabama Thread*
Posted on 11/2/16 at 3:55 pm to GeauxPack81
Posted on 11/2/16 at 3:55 pm to GeauxPack81
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Donte Jackson will be without a doubt the quickest CB you will play against all year.
Maybe, Adoree Jackson isn't a slouch though
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 3:56 pm to GeauxPack81
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Less that they are good at getting off blocks once engaged, and more that they are extremely hard to even engage with in the first place. Donte Jackson will be without a doubt the quickest CB you will play against all year. White might be #2. Plus White plays a ton in the slot when there are 3 WRs, so when he can go either direction on an outside run, he is really hard to block.
Yea - I don't anticipate a whole lot of sideways running this Saturday. LSU is both fast and physical, not to mention well coached.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 3:56 pm to Leonard
Another topic I find interesting: what does Ensminger do with Fournette and Guice if LSU can't find early success running the ball?
They are clearly too talented to abandon after a few stuffed runs. Do we line one up in the slot? Wheel routes or screens? Wildcat?
Assuming traditional power-I won't be wildly successful, I look forward to us throwing the kitchen sink around
They are clearly too talented to abandon after a few stuffed runs. Do we line one up in the slot? Wheel routes or screens? Wildcat?
Assuming traditional power-I won't be wildly successful, I look forward to us throwing the kitchen sink around
Posted on 11/2/16 at 3:56 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Adoree Jackson isn't a slouch though
That is the best CB we will face all year
Posted on 11/2/16 at 3:57 pm to Triple Daves
Can we get the game switched from CBS to Jefferson Pilot?
If not, I am interested to see how well the LSU O line can hold up in pass protection, if at all. I think we will try to start off by getting the passing game going, but it will be impossible if Etling is running for his life every time he drops back. We don't need 5 seconds, we just need 1 to 2 seconds for him to find the guys underneath for quick 5 to 10 yard gains. If we can't get any time in the passing game, I don't see how we get the running game going. If we can get some rhythm going, I can see the running game begin to find a groove as well.
If not, I am interested to see how well the LSU O line can hold up in pass protection, if at all. I think we will try to start off by getting the passing game going, but it will be impossible if Etling is running for his life every time he drops back. We don't need 5 seconds, we just need 1 to 2 seconds for him to find the guys underneath for quick 5 to 10 yard gains. If we can't get any time in the passing game, I don't see how we get the running game going. If we can get some rhythm going, I can see the running game begin to find a groove as well.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 3:58 pm to Leonard
Backs running routes down the field worries me. Screens and flat routes not so much, but we have been susceptible to wheel routes in the past. I almost expect at least one to go for a big gain Saturday
Posted on 11/2/16 at 3:58 pm to bamasgot13
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LSU o-line vs Bama d-line - advantage Bama
LSU rush d-line vs Bama rush o-line - advantage Bama
LSU pash d-line vs Bama pass o-line - push
LSU RBs vs Bama LBs - push
LSU LBs vs Bama RBs - push
LSU WRs vs Bama DBs - push
LSU DBs vs Bama WRs - push
LSU QB vs Bama D - advantage Bama
LSU D vs Bama QB - advantage LSU
Special Teams - Push
Coaching - Bama
Atmosphere - LSU
Yep - close game, LOS and big plays make the difference.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 3:59 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Backs running routes down the field worries me. Screens and flat routes not so much, but we have been susceptible to wheel routes in the past. I almost expect at least one to go for a big gain Saturday
Agree - and after watching some highlights LSU has run the throwback wheel route play a couple times the last 3 games. And if LF7 or Guice gets out in space.........
Yea, scary.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 3:59 pm to 14&Counting
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What is this narrative about "serviceable" DB's I keep hearing from you guys?
Humphrey, Fitzpatrick, Averett, Brown, Harrison, Hootie....
I watch every UA game so here are my thoughts.
Alabama's D struggled on the road vs Ole Miss and Arkansas. Both teams threw for 400 yards. You guys are built to stop the run. Passing on your defense is the key to success, it's your huge glaring weakness. If LSU tries to run the ball a lot, we will lose.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:00 pm to Tigerpaul1969
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If not, I am interested to see how well the LSU O line can hold up in pass protection, if at all. I think we will try to start off by getting the passing game going, but it will be impossible if Etling is running for his life every time he drops back. We don't need 5 seconds, we just need 1 to 2 seconds for him to find the guys underneath for quick 5 to 10 yard gains. If we can't get any time in the passing game, I don't see how we get the running game going. If we can get some rhythm going, I can see the running game begin to find a groove as well.
We were discussing this in the other thread. I am still waiting for any LSU poster to tell me how their OL has improved over last year. If they don't do a better job at pass protection and run blocking too spring LF7 and Guice, then I don't see how LSU wins this game if they can't keep Bama's Front 7 out of the backfield.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:01 pm to 14&Counting
There other guy was a top 10 player too, Iman Marshall. He doesn't have the straight line speed but a great player. I know how fast and quick Donta Jackson is, Adoree runs a 10.38 100m though in a bigger body than Donta, the guy is a freak
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:02 pm to Triple Daves
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The biggest two man on man match-ups will be the centers vs the nose tackles.
100% agree. Will open up or throw a wrench in everything else.
I actually don't know if I agree with this. Everybody is making this matchup out to be the big one, but I'm not sure if I think that. Some of the radio personalities tied into the program here are making it sound like CEO knows he won't win with the power run game and that he thinks his only chance at a W is to win a high scoring game and hope the defense can make enough stops. They are making it seem like we are going to take a ton of deep shots trying to score 40, using Leonard a ton in the pass game....
Not to mention, I think NT is our biggest weakness on the team, and I can tell you that if I know that, Aranda definitely knows that. He is not going to just let Gilmore be on an island. Expect alot of movement and shifting on the Dline, and also probably alot of 4 man fronts like we had against MSU. Thats probably the team we have played with the offensive scheme most similar to Bama, just with much much worse players.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:02 pm to Old Money
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Alabama's D struggled on the road vs Ole Miss and Arkansas. Both teams threw for 400 yards.
I'll agree that the pass D on those particular road games was our biggest weakness. However, do you feel Etling more resembles Kelly/Allen or Dobbs? Can Etling do in the passing game what Kelly (gun) and Allen (quick release/toughness) can do?
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:02 pm to Triple Daves
LSU O-line vs Bama D-line 
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:02 pm to Old Money
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Alabama's D struggled on the road vs Ole Miss and Arkansas. Both teams threw for 400 yards. You guys are built to stop the run. Passing on your defense is the key to success, it's your huge glaring weakness. If LSU tries to run the ball a lot, we will lose.
Well to be fair, those were most likely the two best QBs in the league.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:03 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
quote:I didn't actually go game by game thinking of corners, we are kind of splitting hairs though. I'll put it this way: Donte Jackson is really fricking fast.
Maybe, Adoree Jackson isn't a slouch though
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:04 pm to GeauxPack81
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Not to mention, I think NT is our biggest weakness on the team, and I can tell you that if I know that, Aranda definitely knows that. He is not going to just let Gilmore be on an island. Expect alot of movement and shifting on the Dline, and also probably alot of 4 man fronts like we had against MSU. Thats probably the team we have played with the offensive scheme most similar to Bama, just with much much worse players.
Yea, we were discussing that in the other thread. I'm guessing Aranda moves people around and comes from different places to try and make Hurts uncomfortable in the read option game, make him second guess himself in reads.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:06 pm to Old Money
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You guys are built to stop the run.
Wrong...you haven't been following how Saban has re-tooled this defense. This isn't 2011's defense.
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Passing on your defense is the key to success, it's your huge glaring weakness.
What? If you mean you have to be able to pass as well to beat Bama then OK....I wouldn't say our pass defense is a weakness whatsoever....where we have been challenged is with guys who can move and have an arm like Watson and Kelly.
LSU doesn't have that guy and your OL won't hold up
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:06 pm to 14&Counting
Well, it started off very shaky, and we've been snakebitten by a ton of injuries on the O line. We apparently have everyone back, and I think we will need Weathersby in particular. I think we've improved because Weathersby and Teuhema are more seasoned and ready for this environment. Pocic started off shaky as well and seems to be playing like himself again.
This group has been much better at run blocking than pass blocking however. That's why I'm very worried about our ability to get the passing game going, which I think we're going to try to do so we can then provide our RBs with space. We can't allow the safeties to jump us on the run every time.
Talking about safeties, I'm sorry for Eddie Jackson, but glad he's not playing. That could be a key to this game.
This group has been much better at run blocking than pass blocking however. That's why I'm very worried about our ability to get the passing game going, which I think we're going to try to do so we can then provide our RBs with space. We can't allow the safeties to jump us on the run every time.
Talking about safeties, I'm sorry for Eddie Jackson, but glad he's not playing. That could be a key to this game.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:07 pm to GeauxPack81
Donte finished 2nd in the SEC in the 60m dash last year with a 6.63.
I hope he doesn't have the opportunity to return many kicks (for obvious reasons); but I'll be damned if watching him accelerate out of the endzone isn't one of the more effortlessly impressive things I've seen
I hope he doesn't have the opportunity to return many kicks (for obvious reasons); but I'll be damned if watching him accelerate out of the endzone isn't one of the more effortlessly impressive things I've seen
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