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re: Sumlin's system is outstanding and the rest of the SEC will have to adjust

Posted on 8/29/14 at 9:30 am to
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 9:30 am to
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Pass rush is really irrelevant against it as Jesse Palmer pointed out last night. That's a staple of the Air Raid - they actually want you to blitz because it opens up the field for their quick hitters and WR screens.

Yep, took exactly one half of football for LSU to realize this against Troy a few years ago.

The only way to beat it is to drop in coverage and force mistakes. Helps when you have fast DEs to discourage a scrambling QB and to get sacks if the QB is in the pocket for forever.

Just gotta hope your 4 or 5 in the box can beat their Oline everytime. Or at least assuming they run the ball which they didn't do against LSU last year. We were begging for it too
This post was edited on 8/29/14 at 9:32 am
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 9:34 am to
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Just gotta hope your 4 or 5 in the box can beat their Oline everytime.


First, I wouldn't quote Palmer. He is a moron.

Second, isn't this pass rush. Getting pressure with 4 and not needing to blitz. It is possible to rush that offense. Auburn, Missouri and LSU did it last year.

As long as A&M continues to recruit at the level they are currently they will be strong. There is no reason to overstate how strong.
This post was edited on 8/29/14 at 9:37 am
Posted by ozzy
Member since Jun 2014
12 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 9:35 am to
Congratulations, Aggies. Sumlin is the real deal and I am now terrified of playing y'all at Jerry World.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9119 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 9:36 am to
All you have to do is to have linebackers that can play, just ask Chief.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81620 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 9:46 am to
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No way Kevin walks into that situation. I think we'll see him leave for the NFL at some point but I think we get a few more years first.
It's just something I keep hearing. I have no personal opinion whatsoever.
Posted by DRE06
Houston
Member since Feb 2013
399 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:01 am to
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They didn't try to run enough last night to indicate if it could be shut down.


Not including runs by Kenny Hill, A&M RB's rushed 31 times for 163 yards and 4 TDs. Average of 5.25 yards per carry.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10201 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:19 am to
Some of you guys need to come to grips with reality. Instead of "sure thing buddy" or "lmao stop", why don't you try to dispute one single thing I said in the OP?

I'm sure if Jennings/Harris or Sims/Coker went to the #9 team in the country and threw for 511 you'd be all "settle down it's one game", right?
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:21 am to
Omg look outside, the sky is falling...
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:24 am to
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I'm sure if Jennings/Harris or Sims/Coker went to the #9 team in the country and threw for 511 you'd be all "settle down it's one game", right?


This. Anyone on this board would have ban bet against Kenny throwing 500, probably 400 and no INTs.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:26 am to
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Also, the best thing for holding them down is a dominant running game - with a huddle.


this is so true

thank god
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:26 am to
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Pass rush is really irrelevant against it as Jesse Palmer pointed out last night. That's a staple of the Air Raid - they actually want you to blitz because it opens up the field for their quick hitters and WR screens.


Pressure is never irrelevant. You wouldn't want to be aggressive and blitz the heck out of it, but if your front 4 or a 3 man line can get pressure (especially up the middle), then you can force mistakes or throw aways. Did you not watch the LSU D against them in 2012-13. OR the Auburn game from last year? Pressure was the difference.

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Straight line speed isn't as important as the ability to start and stop with elite quickness.


Speed is necessary. Having the fat linebackers like Bama and UGA have is a recipe to get torn apart by this offense. However, speed isn't as important and TACKLING.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:26 am to
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Is SC's defense that bad?


Has anybody considered that A&M made Alabama's defense look that bad last year...and a lot of other teams? Could be just that A&M's offense is that good.

SC will be fine. You will see a dramatic difference over the next few weeks. Hopefually in week 4.
Posted by TheRookbird
Member since Aug 2013
1322 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:28 am to
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the dickride is so strong in this one that if his posts were published into a book it would be next to gay porn FICTION in the library.


This needs far more up votes.
This post was edited on 8/29/14 at 10:28 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:28 am to
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A&M made Alabama's defense look that bad last year


year before

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Could be just that A&M's offense is that good


oh it's VERY good. but SC lost a lot on defense too. Both starting CBs gone, and had a starter injured in the first quarter IIRC.

They'll score points, but SC quick scores didn't help anything. A team like Bama and LSU can keep the ball and run some clock out.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:29 am to
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Some of you guys need to come to grips with reality. Instead of "sure thing buddy" or "lmao stop", why don't you try to dispute one single thing I said in the OP?

I'm sure if Jennings/Harris or Sims/Coker went to the #9 team in the country and threw for 511 you'd be all "settle down it's one game", right?


If QB's from a pro style O threw for that much, its a much different conversation.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60149 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:29 am to
If the offense is humming it's gonna be hard to get sacks. But pressure is still important. Getting penetration and having D Line get their hands up and swat passes or disrupt throwing lanes can be huge for messing up the timing.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:31 am to
And I stand by the fact that SC's first 2 TDs being long balls almost helped Hill and co stay in rhythm.

You have to try to have some time of posession against a team like aTm.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:35 am to
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A&M made Alabama's defense look that bad last year




year before


A&M score 42 on the Tide last year. 31 first downs and 628 total yards. I didn't say A&M BEAT Alabama...just made their defense look bad.

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oh it's VERY good. but SC lost a lot on defense too. Both starting CBs gone, and had a starter injured in the first quarter IIRC.


Very true. They lost a lot of talent. But I am willing to bet they are MUCH better than they showed last night.

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They'll score points, but SC quick scores didn't help anything. A team like Bama and LSU can keep the ball and run some clock out.


I THINK Georgia can, too, this year.



Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:37 am to
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And I stand by the fact that SC's first 2 TDs being long balls almost helped Hill and co stay in rhythm.


I agree with you. You really don't want to get into a shootout with them.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:37 am to
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I didn't see anything last night to indicate they were any good. They couldn't cover, couldn't adjust, couldn't get to the quarterback. TAMU played a nearly flawless offensive game but I'm not going to splooge over them yet - SCAR just looked massively overrated.


Doesn't really matter how bad USCe was. It was an impressive win...haven't seen an offense look that good against freaking LAMAR
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