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re: Sumlin to USC, Morris to A&M (Who says no?)

Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by dreww221
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by kanyewest
'ham
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:23 pm to
Saban to USC. it's happening
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:23 pm to
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USC is a lateral move at this point. Don't see him going anywhere any time soon. He hasn't won anything yet, still has a lot to prove


Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:25 pm to
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USC is a top 5 job IMO. Texas A&M is somewhere in the top 10-15.


I think that is fair, but it ignores context. When there is so much parity in college football the distance between a top 5 job and a top 15 job isn't what it was in say 1990. Especially when the top 15 job has been proven to overpay, that kinda changes the equation.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7824 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:26 pm to
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Sumlin is already at a top 5 job. He's not going anywhere


Texas, USC, Notre Dame, Florida.

So no.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60148 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:26 pm to
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The only direction Sumlin is going at this point is down unless he starts improving


Spellbinding analysis here. He's only going to get worse unless he gets better. Don't quit your day job
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29189 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:27 pm to
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Money talks and we can match anyone. If we're talking top all-time programs and storied histories or the more prestigious job, yes it's USC and it's not close. But as far as salaries, recruiting ground, facilities, alumni base and program momentum, it's a wash if not advantage A&M. Call me delusional or drinking the maroon kool-aid, but I don't see Sumlin leaving for another college job.






I can agree with this, but the dynamics change if Strong can turn Texas around. WRTS would long be an afterthought and I think that's the day Sumlin makes his move.


Now call me crazy but I think Morris is a better coach, so I think it's a win-win for A&M anyways.
Posted by therick711
South
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:27 pm to
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Why would USC hire the worst coach in football history?


They keep hiring bad coaches, why would they stop now?
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3362 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:27 pm to
There are whispers....Bob is interested..
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:28 pm to
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They keep hiring bad coaches, why would they stop now?

because not even USC would hire kevin sumlin. he is the actual worst and everyone can see it besides aggy
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 4:28 pm
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:28 pm to
Top jobs in college football FYI

1) Texas YEAH TEXAS
2) ND
3) OHIO ST
4) FSU
4) USC
Posted by fan251
Mobile, AL
Member since Jun 2011
857 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:28 pm to
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Money talks and we can match anyone. If we're talking top all-time programs and storied histories or the more prestigious job, yes it's USC and it's not close. But as far as salaries, recruiting ground, facilities, alumni base and program momentum, it's a wash if not advantage A&M. Call me delusional or drinking the maroon look-aid, but I don't see Sumlin leaving for another college job.


I don't see him leaving either; but you can't be serious about the statement above???

I mean, you just can't be serious!!!

Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:28 pm to
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I think that is fair, but it ignores context. When there is so much parity in college football the distance between a top 5 job and a top 15 job isn't what it was in say 1990. Especially when the top 15 job has been proven to overpay, that kinda changes the equation.


USC is ripe for a rebuild as more time passes from the sanctions. Someone is going to show up and have a helluva opportunity.
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3362 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:30 pm to
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Top jobs in college football FYI


Bad list. FSU is not
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60148 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:31 pm to
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I don't see him leaving either; but you can't be serious about the statement above???

I mean, you just can't be serious!!!



We already outbid them for Sumlin once

Our facilities are easily better, don't see how you can argue that

California and TX are roughly equal

USC really hasn't been better than us the last few years

I don't see what's wrong with his statement
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46507 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:31 pm to
Honestly, if this happened I wouldn't melt much. Morris with his Texas connections and how much he is loved in the HS ranks would kill it in recruiting here.

That being said, if we lost Sumlin (we won't) my first call would be to Tom Herman.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145139 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:31 pm to
and aggy is just aggy so taking sumlin from aggy shouldnt be too hard. except USC wouldnt want someone so shitty
Posted by fan251
Mobile, AL
Member since Jun 2011
857 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:31 pm to
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USC is ripe for a rebuild as more time passes from the sanctions. Someone is going to show up and have a helluva opportunity.


This +100000000000000

The opportunity to bring USC back to national prominence and even win a championship........man seriously, that's a wet dream for any coach.........
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65895 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:31 pm to
LOL at USC is a lateral move!!!!!!!!!!


You guys truly are delusional. WOW.

USC has crazy amount of talent and appeal.. and it's still USC.. He could legit compete for championships in the PAC and getting to playoffs rather than staying in the tougher SEC west..
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42523 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:32 pm to
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I think that is fair, but it ignores context. When there is so much parity in college football the distance between a top 5 job and a top 15 job isn't what it was in say 1990. Especially when the top 15 job has been proven to overpay, that kinda changes the equation.


I touched on it, but didn't go into detail when I said you rarely see people make that move nowadays. It's really tough to pull someone away from a top 15 job, unless they're having issues with the fanbase/administration (Sumlin isn't), they'll get an incredible increase in pay (Sumlin won't), or it's a dream school for the coach (don't believe USC is for Sumlin). That's not to say that it isn't still a possibility. USC has an absolutely loaded roster and a much easier schedule, and he will really only have to compete with 4-5 schools for recruits instead of 10 like he has to do now. I just think it would be a really smart move for USC, and it wouldn't be a bad move for Sumlin by any means. Just thought it was an interesting topic to talk about.
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