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Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:56 am to SwayzeBalla
Mullen's diamonds have been to the NY6. Kennedy's haven't touched the Elite 8.
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Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:56 am to Big4Dawg
Howland will be coaching elsewhere by the 2018 season. You're delirious if you really think he plans on retiring in Starkville, Mississippi. Seeing as how his name was tarnished after his exit out of Los Angeles, he knew he needed a low profile opportunity to once again re establish his brand as big time college basketball commodity. Turn a dumpster fire into a respectable program and bounce to the ACC once Pitino or Boheim hang it up. A classic redemption story as old as time
Anyone with a functioning brain knows he's viewing Mississippi State as a stepping stone
Anyone with a functioning brain knows he's viewing Mississippi State as a stepping stone
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Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:01 am to Big4Dawg
Just wondering how competitive is your coachs pay? I'm not going to say he wants out of Starkville but $$ can make a difference and pulling the #7 recuriting class is impressive. Im not saying his leaving just wondering what you think on that. As I said I don't know BB.
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Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:03 am to Coach K
The guy is almost 60. I don't think anyone is going to hire a 63 year old coach for 2-3 years and then want to find a new coach all over again. This isn't a young up-and-comer. He'll make his $2-3 million a year for 6-7 more years, win a bunch of games against the terrible SEC, make us a top 3-4 SEC program, and call it a day.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:04 am to Big4Dawg
That answers that.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:12 am to Big4Dawg
He's 58 compared to Pitino at 64, Boheim at 71, or even Roy Williams at 65. If he starts winning big, with his track record and proven resumè, bigger programs will come calling. I think he's a great coach, man - it's just the move to Starkville was so unorthodox that I think he has some underlying motives to get back to a major program.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:18 am to Coach K
BH is 59 in May. Pitino is 63. So 4 year difference. A school isn't going to hire a coach that the know only has 3-4 years left. Find another coach who switched jobs at the age of 62 w/o getting fired.
I just don't see a coach leaving a job that is stress-free, can make as much as he wants, can recruit and win big. He's been at a big time program and knows that he can get fired in the same year you can win your conference.
I just don't see a coach leaving a job that is stress-free, can make as much as he wants, can recruit and win big. He's been at a big time program and knows that he can get fired in the same year you can win your conference.
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Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:26 am to Big4Dawg
He was basically run off due to lack of institutional control. Hazing and drug issues were prevalent, culminate that with the fact that he had pretty much burned every bridge he had on the West Coast high school/AAU circuit. His name was complete dirt out there.
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Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:35 am to Coach K
Yep. Settles that. Howland sucks. No one wants him. Stuck at State.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:39 am to Big4Dawg
Literally 3 posts up
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I think he's a great coach, man
Posted on 3/3/16 at 11:08 am to Big4Dawg
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job that is stress-free
Lol.
You realize that basically means shite program with no expectations of winning, right? Did you see stans the last two years at msu? Wouldn't say "stess free" is a very good description.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:21 pm to pankReb
Compared to UCLA/Louisville/UNC/Cuse, yes, State is stress-free.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 3:42 pm to Big4Dawg
How about compared to a school whose fan base claims to have a strong basketball history but has struggled as of late? That can be pretty damned stressful.
Did you already forget that you guys turned a "high character" head coach into someone that cussed out opposing players?
Did you already forget that you guys turned a "high character" head coach into someone that cussed out opposing players?
Posted on 3/3/16 at 4:11 pm to pankReb
You're completely ignoring the question of who is going to hire him. He makes enough money that only about 15-20 programs are legitimate contenders. He's old enough that at least 10-15 of those aren't interested.
Howland is a great coach but honestly he's too old for UNC, Cuse, Kansas, Texas, or any other top 10-15 basketball school to come after him. His track record has proven everywhere he's been that it takes him until year 3 to put an exceptional team on the floor. He's 59, even if you hire him at 60 you're looking at 63 before you see a return on the hire.
Howland is a great coach but honestly he's too old for UNC, Cuse, Kansas, Texas, or any other top 10-15 basketball school to come after him. His track record has proven everywhere he's been that it takes him until year 3 to put an exceptional team on the floor. He's 59, even if you hire him at 60 you're looking at 63 before you see a return on the hire.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 5:04 pm to skirpnasty
That's because I'm not referencing that question whatsoever. Good job on recognizing that.
Go back and re-read things.
Go back and re-read things.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 5:13 pm to pankReb
We didn't turn Ray into a Henderson-hater. Henderson did that all by himself.
But anyone will agree State is stress-free compared to UCLA/Louisville/UNC/Cuse, which are the only type of schools that could hire him away. Stress-free compared to yall? No, because yalls program has historically been trash.
But anyone will agree State is stress-free compared to UCLA/Louisville/UNC/Cuse, which are the only type of schools that could hire him away. Stress-free compared to yall? No, because yalls program has historically been trash.
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Posted on 3/3/16 at 6:29 pm to Big4Dawg
Hey guys, did anyone mention State sucks loads of dick in every sport? If it has been mentioned already please carry on.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 6:49 pm to Coach K
2018? Damn man..Howland won't be going anywhere until he gives us at least two good runs, and that will take at least 3 to 4 years to achieve. But get ready to get your teeth kicked in on the hardwood against us in the future. We're about to accumulate some real basketball players.
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