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re: Steele in best position of all new SEC coordinators

Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:53 pm to
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your D was Top 5 in scoring, your offense was outside the Top 50, and it's been that way for 6 years on average.


Because our coach would rather win a game 24-10 than 42-28. When a Les Miles team gets a sizable lead, the offense drains the clock so the team can get out of the stadium with the Win.

How many Top 5 scoring Ds do you expect aTm to have in the next 6 years?
Posted by WRTC
Member since Sep 2014
768 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:56 pm to
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How many Top 5 scoring Ds do you expect aTm to have in the next 6 years?


Honestly,

I'd be happy with Top 70 this year, compared to what we've had. Top 30-40 should be expected in 2016, approaching Top 15 status by 2017.

I don't expect an overnight miracle change like some.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260158 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:59 pm to
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your D was Top 5 in scoring, your offense was outside the Top 50, and it's been that way for 6 years on average.


LSU lost two games that year in which the combined offensive output for the Tigers was 65 points. Both of those games featured a final drive vs our infamous prevent defense that won the game for the opposition, who combined for a total of 71 points. The other loss was on both offense and defense in which Alabama scored 38 and LSU scored 17.

In 2012 and 2013, the defense allowed 4 game winning drives to account for 2/3rds of LSU's losses during that span.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:01 pm to
Good luck with that.

Sumlin runs a fast-paced, quick strike offense. Chavis runs a passive, bend-don't-break defense.

aTm over the last five years ranks approx. 100th in Time of Possession and doesn't have quality defensive depth.

Sumlin will be fired before you see a Top 15 defense.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260158 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:03 pm to
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I don't expect an overnight miracle change like some.



It's dependent on the talent you have. Chavis can run a very good defense with very good talent. His prevent defense will never change though.

Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30194 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:12 pm to
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It's dependent on the talent you have. Chavis can run a very good defense with very good talent. His prevent defense will never change though.

Do you think that Les may have had something to do with Chavis running the prevent defense? Someone above stated that Les would rather take a lead, slow down the offense and drain the clock to escape with a win. IDK, just a thought.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:15 pm to
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Someone above stated that Les would rather take a lead, slow down the offense and drain the clock to escape with a win.


Doesn't really apply when it's a one-possession game with under two minutes left.
Posted by WRTC
Member since Sep 2014
768 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:16 pm to
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Do you think that Les may have had something to do with Chavis running the prevent defense?


I also think that Chavis would be way more willing to attack if he knew his offense could put up big points.

When you guys are talking about low scoring games being decided by field goals, attacking defense is pretty risky. One big play could be the ball game.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:21 pm to
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I also think that Chavis would be way more willing to attack if he knew his offense could put up big points.


Chavis isn't about to change what he's been doing for 30 years.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16626 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:24 pm to
He's going to have to change some things with the worst personnel he's ever had at the D1 level.
Posted by gatortrav88
Member since Oct 2014
3807 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:25 pm to
geoff collins would of been a good choice

im excited to see some of those creatize blitz packages he brings thats one area muschamp left alot to be desired
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260158 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:32 pm to
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I also think that Chavis would be way more willing to attack if he knew his offense could put up big points.


Not going to happen. It's all about containment, bend but don't break, etc. You'll need solid linebackers, and you'll need CB's that can be put on an island. Don't expect very many sacks or much production up front.

He'll improve your defense though, no doubt about it. I think anyone would though.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:35 pm to
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The Tigers return six starters from their bowl game against Notre Dame and most of the key reserves.


And,boy did Chavis' boys ever rise to the occasion when they were needed the most in that game.Stuff of legends,right there.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60124 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:37 pm to
Why would you need CBs that can be put on an island if he's not bringing pressure and he's just trying to play contain?
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:43 pm to
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quote: That's like saying our Defense wasn't the problem and our O needed to do more


You might be onto something. Scoring ZERO against Bama and 21 against ULM, yea ULM is pretty impressive!

I'd say Chavis is in the best position, he get Aggie in the top 100 yall will be extatic! Hell Sumlin might get another raise and extension!
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7730 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:45 pm to
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extatic


Posted by WRTC
Member since Sep 2014
768 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 2:59 pm to
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You might be onto something. Scoring ZERO against Bama and 21 against ULM, yea ULM is pretty impressive


Our offense had a really down year by their standards last year and managed to rank 48 spots higher than your offense.

your best offense in 2013 was still only good enough for 23rd.

Ya'll have as much of chance cracking top 10 in O as we do in D.

we've been 28th, 5th, and 4th in offense... but yes go ahead and convince yourself our offense is a problem
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 3:05 pm to
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we've been 28th, 5th, and 4th in offense... but yes go ahead and convince yourself our offense is a problem


Don't you think having an offense that puts your D on the field for 40 minutes constitutes a problem?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 3:07 pm to
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Honestly,

I'd be happy with Top 70 this year, compared to what we've had. Top 30-40 should be expected in 2016, approaching Top 15 status by 2017.

I don't expect an overnight miracle change like some.


This.

With the offense we run, even a marginal improvement on defense would make a significant difference.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 3:07 pm to
You sound like a guy that couldn't find his arse with A mirror

You can't make this kind of rational thinking up fellas!

#Keepthefaith
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