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Starting #1 in the polls because of winning the title the year before.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:27 am
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:27 am
I was talking with an older guy this morning and he was adamant about the champion from the previous year being #1 in the polls to start the season, only because they won the title the previous year.
Is there a lot of people that really believe this?
It makes no sense to me. What does the SEC Rant think?
Is there a lot of people that really believe this?
It makes no sense to me. What does the SEC Rant think?
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Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:29 am to Rickdaddy4188
I think it makes no sense whatsoever... how many times have we even had a repeat champion. The previous year's NC almost never repeats, therefore does not deserve a #1 ranking in the preseason.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:29 am to Rickdaddy4188
See Auburn 2011.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:29 am to Rickdaddy4188
Ehhh, I could see why people feel that way.
They are always referred to as the defending national champs. Might as well rank them #1 until someone beats them I suppose.
They are always referred to as the defending national champs. Might as well rank them #1 until someone beats them I suppose.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:30 am to Rickdaddy4188
you know what doesn't make sense...pre-season polls.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:30 am to Rickdaddy4188
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he was adamant about the champion from the previous year being #1 in the polls to start the season, only because they won the title the previous year.
beyond stupid
who is this older gentleman a fan of?
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:30 am to Rickdaddy4188
It's stupid as frick. A new year is just that, a new year. It makes no logical sense whatsoever for someone to be ranked arbitrarily simply because of what they did last year. If a team went 8-4 last year and finished unranked, but returns all 22 starters should they automatically be unranked? What if that #1 team lost 20 starters from the year before?
You should rank the teams based on the current season, common sense. And honestly, there shouldn't even be any polls until October but that's another discussion.
You should rank the teams based on the current season, common sense. And honestly, there shouldn't even be any polls until October but that's another discussion.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:31 am to Rickdaddy4188
I understand both arguments, don't think it's a big deal one way or the other.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:32 am to plaric
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Ehhh, I could see why people feel that way.
They are always referred to as the defending national champs. Might as well rank them #1 until someone beats them I suppose.
The best way to do it is wait till the middle of the season to start ranking teams.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:36 am to bona fide
This. Either way its going to be earned. The only team i have seen get screwed was auburn in 03.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:38 am to plaric
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They are always referred to as the defending national champs. Might as well rank them #1 until someone beats them I suppose.
But once the ball kicks off in the new season they aren't the national champions anymore, nobody is. They were the previous season's champs, not the current season's. The whole "rank them 1 until someone beats them" thing is just completely illogical. Why would you rank someone #1 simply on the basis of what they did a year ago? Rank them by how they look THIS year.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:39 am to Rickdaddy4188
preseason polls are stupid, but if they must do them then to me the only logical thing to do is just to rank everybody where they were ranked at the end of last season. At least that is based on what teams earned instead of guesses analysts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:40 am to POCKET
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preseason polls are stupid, but if they must do them then to me the only logical thing to do is just to rank everybody where they were ranked at the end of last season. At least that is based on what teams earned instead of guesses analysts
It's based on what the teams earned a year ago. They haven't earned anything yet in the current year, so why just put them all down wherever they finished last? I guess UGA should be ranked about 20th right now then?
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:41 am to RoscoeHarper
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I think it makes no sense whatsoever... how many times have we even had a repeat champion. The previous year's NC almost never repeats, therefore does not deserve a #1 ranking in the preseason.
This is what I think. If a team wins the title then replaces 18 starters, they are pretty much a different team. Now if they returned a bunch of starters , I could see ranking them #1, but not soley because they won the title the year before. That's what this gentleman was saying.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:42 am to Draconian Sanctions
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who is this older gentleman a fan of?
Guess. You already know.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:43 am to POCKET
Pre-season polls are useless.
They exist though - so may as well rank every team in the exact same spot that they finished the previous season. It'll all shake out when the season commences anyway.
They exist though - so may as well rank every team in the exact same spot that they finished the previous season. It'll all shake out when the season commences anyway.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:43 am to WG_Dawg
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Why would you rank someone #1 simply on the basis of what they did a year ago?
The teams in preseason polls are voted based on last season along with returnees etc.
So either way last year is always taken into consideration.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:44 am to bona fide
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The teams in preseason polls are voted based on last season along with returnees etc. So either way last year is always taken into consideration.
I can see if the team returned the bulk of the title winning team, but of they have to replace 60%-75% of their starters from the previous year, it's dumb.
This post was edited on 8/28/12 at 9:45 am
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:46 am to Rickdaddy4188
Preseason rankings don't matter. If they deserve it they'll win out and if they don't they'll lose and drop later.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:48 am to bona fide
No. That makes no sense whatsoever
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