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re: Starting #1 in the polls because of winning the title the year before.

Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:48 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86530 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:48 am to
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The teams in preseason polls are voted based on last season along with returnees etc.
So either way last year is always taken into consideration.


Of course, but that at least is logical. Players returning, key losses, coaching turnover, etc should all come into play. But I mean, if a team wins the national title then loses 10 starters on O, 10 on D, both kickers, and half their coaching staff...then no, they shouldn't start #1 simply due to where they finsihed a year ago.
Posted by Dobermann
Member since Sep 2008
2032 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:50 am to
Show the old guy this site. They have the same legitimacy as any preseason poll. The champ stays on top until they get beat and so on...and WVU is the defending champ FWIW.



LINK
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:50 am to
I've always thought that official rankings should begin after 3-4 games have been played.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6855 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Of course, but that at least is logical. Players returning, key losses, coaching turnover, etc should all come into play.


Isn't the pre-season poll based on where the voters expect the teams to finish the season, so all of the information, players returning, ect. is figured in to the vote?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:54 am to
All the posters in this thread that are saying,"pre season polls are irrelevant", arent remembering 2004 well. If two teams start at 1&2 , and they go undefeated ad so does the #3 team, that #3 team will get left out. I'm glad next year, we have a playoff somewhat.
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
6466 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:55 am to
Who really gives a shite? This is nothing more than LSU fans inferiority complex showing its ugly face again. If you believe that preseason polls are meaningless, which I personally do, then who cares.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:58 am to
quote:

All the posters in this thread that are saying,"pre season polls are irrelevant", arent remembering 2004 well. If two teams start at 1&2 , and they go undefeated ad so does the #3 team, that #3 team will get left out. I'm glad next year, we have a playoff somewhat.

This is true. I'm glad to see the playoff coming as well.
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25333 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 9:59 am to
Did you punch your dad in the face with your humongus arms?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99112 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 10:05 am to
Polls shouldn't be released any earlier then the end of September in a perfect world.

Unfortunately because at least one poll ties into the BCS equation the rankings do matter.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23133 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 10:07 am to
i can absolutely see the problem in this year and next, before the playoff is in place.

Team A wins the NC
Team A starts the next season at 5-6
Team A goes undefeated and is left out because 2 teams of 1-4 are undefeated as well
Team A has no chance to defend

It hasn't happened yet that I can recall, but absolutely plausible. IMO it would have happened in 2003 if Clarett hadn't gone nuts
Posted by LOYALBAMA
bham
Member since Sep 2008
2566 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 10:13 am to
Should not be the determining factor. Sure if you don't graduate anyone.

Each team is different from the previous year.

I think it's obvious Bama will be much improved over last year. SEC ffuuuuucccckkkked
Posted by LOYALBAMA
bham
Member since Sep 2008
2566 posts
Posted on 8/28/12 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Team A goes undefeated and is left out because 2 teams of 1-4 are undefeated as well
Team A has no chance to defend


That's why we gonna have playoff.
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