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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:47 am to WG_Dawg
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Richt, meyer, saban, malzahn, and countless others did that far earlier than year 6.
Seriously?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:51 am to WG_Dawg
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Richt, meyer, saban, malzahn, and countless others did that far earlier than year 6.
Are you really comparing the state of South Carolina football before Spurrier to Big 6 members?
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:52 am to Korin
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Are you really comparing the state of South Carolina football before Spurrier to Big 6 members?
I think he is...
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:59 am to Korin
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Are you really comparing the state of South Carolina football before Spurrier to Big 6 members?
Side by side? No, of course not.
But as I said, in the previous 4 years of spurrier to his first 5 years, there was only a 3% overall improvement in winning percentage. I'm not comparing SC to those other schools, I'm comparing spurrier's SC to holt's SC. That's fair, is it not?
Richt took a team that won 8 games both of the years before he got here, won 8 in his first year and 13 the next. Malzahn took a team that won 3 games before he got there and took them to the title. Meyer took over after zook was fired and won a natty in year 2. Saban took a fledgling team and went 12-0 in year 2. My point was that it shouldn't take SIX years to have a decent (9 win) season.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 10:00 am
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:05 am to WG_Dawg
So yeah, you are comparing the state of South Carolina football when Spurrier got there to Big 6 programs which have obvious advantages.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:07 am to Korin
I know you're usually a shitty poster but I don't think I can explain it any more clearly. I'm not comparing any one team to a different team. I'm comparing 1 team against itself.
No, I'm comparing SC to SC.
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you are comparing the state of South Carolina football when Spurrier got there to Big 6 programs
No, I'm comparing SC to SC.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:10 am to WG_Dawg
Except you've now brought up UF multiple times for example. Nevermind that we're the flagship school of the fourth largest state that happens to be loaded with high school talent or that despite his obvious coaching deficiencies (except against Georgia 
), Zook was a brilliant recruiter.
), Zook was a brilliant recruiter.Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:12 am to Korin
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Except you've now brought up UF multiple times for example
I've used them in the same example, yet for some reason have had to explain it to you multiple times.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:13 am to Korin
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obvious coaching deficiencies (except against Georgia)
Too soon.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:14 am to boot
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boot
Spurrier vs Richt
Spurrier has a natty, and multiple SEC championships. Richt has shite.
Richt does have at least one SEC Title and at least four SECCG appearances. He's been a pretty consistent winner and has had UGA contending for the Top 10 just about every year.
But I'd put Spurrier ahead because of the titles he's won and what he has done at USC.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 10:15 am
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:14 am to WG_Dawg
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I've used them in the same example, yet for some reason have had to explain it to you multiple times.
Well you aren't just comparing USC to USC like you claimed. "Well Urban did this in year 2 at UF, Saban and Richt did that in year 2 at UA and UG, etc."
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:16 am to Craig86
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Which coach is better in your honest opinion?
In the past: Spurrier
Today: Richt
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:16 am to Korin
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"Well Urban did this in year 2 at UF, Saban and Richt did that in year 2 at UA and UG, etc."
And in those examples I'm comparing that school to where they were before that coach took over you fricking idiot.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:17 am to MetryTyger
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Richt does have at least one SEC Title and at least four SECCG appearances
not sure the need for the "at least", he has 2 SEC titles and 5 appearances.
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I'd put Spurrier ahead because of the titles he's won
The OP was talking about spurrier at SC. If you include UF-spurrier there isn't a thread becuase there isn't even a hint of debate.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:47 am to Korin
Print the 11-2 shirts.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:50 am to WG_Dawg
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Again, I know it's impossible to know who would be available, but are there any definites that you would say "we have to at least throw an offer at that guy no matter what"
I think Dantonio gets a phone call, to be certain. After that, it's pretty much unknown.
If Texas chases off Charlie Strong (and I think they will), I would honestly be surprised if he doesn't at least get the inside track to the job at USC. Texas is a bad fit for him, but he didn't see it. I think he'd do very well at USC.
In terms of internal candidates, I think Shawn Elliot and GA Mangus could realistically be promoted. But promoting top flight assistants hasn't worked out so well for Carolina thus far (see Holbrook, Chad).
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:51 am to Korin
Head to head record
Spurrier 6
Richt 5
Spurrier 6
Richt 5
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:56 am to WG_Dawg
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WG_Dawg
Spurrier vs Richt
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Richt does have at least one SEC Title and at least four SECCG appearances
not sure the need for the "at least", he has 2 SEC titles and 5 appearances.
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I'd put Spurrier ahead because of the titles he's won
The OP was talking about spurrier at SC. If you include UF-spurrier there isn't a thread becuase there isn't even a hint of debate.
Thanks WG, wasn't sure about the numbers that's why I said at least.
As far as Spurrier's record at SC vs Richt, I'd go with Richt.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:56 am to WG_Dawg
People who are saying Spurrier has "mailed it in" haven't been paying attention to his post season moves, and post season rhetoric...
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