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re: Spinoff: Who should be on the SEC Coach Mt. Rushmore?

Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by PatDyesPants
Loachapoka, AL
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:37 pm to
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Where is Wade Wallace with his 4 conference and 3 national titles?


Marsh has 4x as many conference and national titles as Wade Wallace.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:55 pm to
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Marsh has 4x as many conference and national titles as Wade Wallace.


And that sport...does it pay its own way, or does it rely on another sport to cover its expenses? Does that sport generate TV contract revenue for the conference/school, or does the vast majority not give a shite about it?

What about parity? Does the sport have any or it, or is it basically the water equivalent of women's basketball?


my point - an SEC mount rushmore would/should only have coaches from the big 3 sports on it.
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 2:57 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98952 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 2:59 pm to
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Again no disrespect to anyone but Jebbus H Christ when people die it doesn't mean they immediately shoot to the top of the best of list...


She was at the top before death. She's the winningest coach in college basketball (men or women's at 1,098), two time Olympic medalist (Silver as a player, Gold as a HC), and is a recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
10276 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:00 pm to
Nolan Richardson
Posted by NWLA Tiguh12
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:01 pm to
Spurrier should be on there
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17162 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:02 pm to
Rupp and Bear are the only two undebatables. The rest y'all can bicker about. Saban and Cal will be pretty damn deserving by the end of their tenures.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98952 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:07 pm to
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Skip Bertman, Saban, Bear, Pat Summit.... in terms of National Championships no one else touches those cats.


Adolph Rupp had 4 NCAA Championships, but also had a Helms Title before the NCAA was "the" national championship (North Carolina claims their Helms) and also had an NIT Championship when it was at the height of it's popularity (and considered > NCAA). He also won an Olympic Gold Medal as an Asst. Coach for the 1948 team.

He's right up there.

Posted by Peter Dragon
On the beach
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:15 pm to
Texag?
Is that some sort of insult
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38770 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:19 pm to
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Nolan Richardson



Statue [Built]
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38770 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:20 pm to
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Adolph Rupp had 4 NCAA Championships, but also had a Helms Title before the NCAA was "the" national championship (North Carolina claims their Helms) and also had an NIT Championship when it was at the height of it's popularity (and considered > NCAA). He also won an Olympic Gold Medal as an Asst. Coach for the 1948 team.

He's right up there.


can they carve his white hood into the mountain?

All kidding aside too much baggage to honor him. Just be removing it in 30 years like Lee's Circle
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 4:23 pm
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:23 pm to
Summitt and I bet if he were asked even Saban would say so.
Posted by RegisteredPharmacist
Member since Apr 2016
830 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 4:25 pm to
Steve Spurrier, Bear Bryant, Johnny Vaught, Nick Saban
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24328 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 5:32 pm to
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Saban over three of those...not Bear.

That's just plain stupid...
Bertman dominated college baseball for over a decade. Pat did more for sports than the other 3 plus won more games than any other basketball coach ever. Including Rupp and a crap load of others. Bear is Bear BUT one could argue Saban over him especially since we know Bear would likely struggle today with scholly limits and what football has become.
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 6:13 pm
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10051 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 6:10 pm to
The award was created by one of his players.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39993 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 6:17 pm to
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His lack of NC's


His 1951 natty doesn't count?

And I noticed that Frank Thomas doesn't have any recognized by the NCAA so I guess he's out too.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39993 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 6:24 pm to
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What about parity? Does the sport have any or it, or is it basically the water equivalent of women's basketball?


There is more parity in swim and dive than there is in football.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 6:28 pm to
Well, speaking of stupid. Bear would beat you with your players.

The SEC is football and only one coach is even close to Saban.
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14035 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 6:31 pm to
Bear Bryant, Skip Bertman, Nick Saban, Adolph Rupp,
Posted by NoNameTiger
Mandeville, LA
Member since Nov 2015
2054 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 6:31 pm to
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Frank Broyles, he was one of the greats and has an award named in his honor



I maybe wrong, but wasn't the bulk of his career before Ark was in the SEC?
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24328 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 6:52 pm to
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Well, speaking of stupid. Bear would beat you with your players.

The SEC is football and only one coach is even close to Saban.

You're funny. Bear used to get any and all players he wanted. Football has so much more parity today than anytime in the history of football. Bear was no doubt great. Bertman and Summitt could do the same -beat you with your players - as you stated with Bear. Both of them did the same for their respective sports. So what's your freakin point.

Saban has multiple national championships (as did Bertman - while at Miami) in a time where the game is decided in more than a popularity contest. Look at the 78 or 79 split with SC as an example. BCS and playoffs have changed it all. Saban did it in tougher competition and won at 2 schools mind you which Bear couldn't do at TAMu or Kentucky. How many does each really have? Saban championships are more legit in my mind and that's not disrespecting anything Bear did.

Bear had underlings like McClendon at LSU and could take advantage of that as he taught them.
Different times for sure , but I go with Saban on rebuilding LSU and Bama as far as programs and facilities. Look around campus and you can see why happened at both schools.
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 6:38 am
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