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re: So Penn Wagers messed up again

Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95877 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:33 pm to
Is that why the SEC said the officials were wrong?
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:37 pm to
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Would've been 4th & 7 and we would have gotten the ball back with 20-30 seconds left. I would have to look at the clock.


No
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95877 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:37 pm to
Yes
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94936 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:38 pm to
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Aman
Proof that people will argue anything. SEC office comes out and says refs screwed up, sticks head in sand and argues anyway
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:39 pm to
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You should justdo 60 false starts in a row when you have the lead under 8 minutes so you can win and run out the clock.



No because there is a rule that states a team can't use unfair clock tactics. The ref has the right to stop the clock until the snap if he feels a team is doing things to intentionally run clock. Obviously your analogy would qualify for that.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:41 pm to
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SEC office


LSU fan all of a sudden thinks the SEC office couldn't be wrong?
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25092 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:42 pm to
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Proof that people will argue anything. SEC office comes out and says refs screwed up, sticks head in sand and argues anyway


Alabama fans tried to convince everyone that the school wasn't being a bunch of unreasonable dicks in the Daisha Simmons case too. They really are a hilarious bunch.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95877 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:43 pm to
Have you always been this dumb or did you have to consume a lot of paint chips and aerosol to get to this point?
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:45 pm to
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Have you always been this dumb or did you have to consume a lot of paint chips and aerosol to get to this point?


They are like a mule team. None of them will ever admit they ever have done anything wrong or get an officiating break.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:46 pm to
Penn Wagers is a very "Vegas" sounding name if you ask me...
Posted by cheo25
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
984 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:48 pm to
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quote: 20 seconds Refs transferred 10 of those seconds to LSU's account in the Swamp.


It's called giving a team time to get set because the opponent wouldn't unpile. If anything, LSU should have gotten a 5-year penalty and a stopped clock against Florida for delay of game.

Go back to sleep and enjoy your dream season because it will end soon enough and you'll be back in your proper nightmare of being an Ole Miss football fan.
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Denver
Member since Feb 2013
5052 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:48 pm to
The rest of the rule also says that if the team winning commits the foul the clock should start on the snap, not keep running.
Posted by cheo25
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
984 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:49 pm to
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How was Bert not penalized for being that far on the field when the play was being run? Seriously why did he not run down the sideline and get the attention of the ref on the line of scrimmage? That guys job is to watch the line for movement, etc, not for fat men running out on the field 25 yards away.


Don't try using logic around here. It's a futile effort.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:55 pm to
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The rest of the rule also says that if the team winning commits the foul the clock should start on the snap, not keep running.


Do you not think it is a judgement call on the refs part to determine if the team is using unfair clock tactics? People in this thread keep bringing up that teams could just keep false starting to run 10 minutes off the clock. That just isn't the case. That would be brazen unfair clock tactics, but one false start has to be a judgement call. I could see the ref holding the clock Saturday night and I would have had no problem with it, but people here are acting like the ref just shite on the rule book and started the clock clearly against the rules. That just isn't the case.
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Denver
Member since Feb 2013
5052 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:56 pm to
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Do you not think it is a judgement call on the refs part to determine if the team is using unfair clock tactics? People in this thread keep bringing up that teams could just keep false starting to run 10 minutes off the clock. That just isn't the case. That would be brazen unfair clock tactics, but one false start has to be a judgement call. I could see the ref holding the clock Saturday night and I would have had no problem with it, but people here are acting like the ref just shite on the rule book and started the clock clearly against the rules. That just isn't the case.


Do you think if your team commits a penalty you should be rewarded?

Check out the rule and it states the clock should start on the snap if the winning team commits the penalty.

Rule 3, Article 4, Section 3
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted by porkrind
Hog Jaw
Member since Apr 2012
950 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:01 pm to
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How was Bert not penalized for being that far on the field when the play was being run?

Seriously why did he not run down the sideline and get the attention of the ref on the line of scrimmage? That guys job is to watch the line for movement, etc, not for fat men running out on the field 25 yards away.


I was listening to the local radio station and the announcers saw him going ape shite when the line judge ignored him.. it was at that point he ran onto the field to get anyone's attention and was still ignored. The announcers were in disbelief that no one could see him.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:13 pm to
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I was listening to the local radio station and the announcers saw him going ape shite when the line judge ignored him.. it was at that point he ran onto the field to get anyone's attention and was still ignored. The announcers were in disbelief that no one could see him.



The line of scrimmage was what the 7 or 8? Bert appears in the picture to have come on the field at an angle from somewhere between the 20 and 25 and was standing on the 15 in that picture. Every coach I have ever seen in that situation that wants a timeout runs down the sideline and gets in the line judge's face to call it. Are you saying he did this and was ignored?
Posted by MTurbo
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2010
1773 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:15 pm to
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it was at that point he ran onto the field to get anyone's attention


I didn't understand that either. How do you ignore it when a coach is all the way on the field? The correct action was to give him the timeout obviously BUT at the very least the play should have been stopped and Ark penalized.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132251 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:23 pm to
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play should have been stopped and Ark penalized.

We hired john l smith for a year. isn't that enough?
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:31 pm to
Exactly. Guarantee if that would have been a player they would have seen him and flagged for to many on the field.
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