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re: So peen st just buys off the ncaa

Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:41 pm to
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Okay I am sue you know more than the NCAA does about its rules.

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In e-mails from 2012 that were publicly released on Tuesday, the NCAA admitted that it was bluffing Penn State into accepting the dire sanctions imposed as punishment for the Jerry Sandusky scandal and questioned privately whether it had the jurisdiction to hand down such punitive measures.


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“We could try to assert jurisdiction on this issue and may be successful but it’d be a stretch,” wrote former NCAA Vice President of Enforcement Julie Roe in an email on July 14, 10 days before the sanctions were announced. “I characterized our approach to PSU as a bluff when talking to [NCAA President Mark Emmert] yesterday afternoon after the call. He basically agreed b/c if we make this an enforcement issue, we may win the immediate battle but lose the war when the COI [Committee on Infractions] has to rule.”


And their actions today is because they do not want to have full disclosure in an impending court trial and definitely do not want to testify under oath.
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 3:44 pm
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:44 pm to
Fire Mark Emmert now... he overstepped his authority... This was all about PR...

Joe won those games, glad they are being restored...
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:49 pm to

you'ed have to be stupid as fuk to think that "jurisdiction over legal evidence in a criminal case" somehow disqualifies the rules of the NCAA.

Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:52 pm to
You are dumb as frick. The NCAA is taking back all of the sanctions against Penn State for a reason.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:52 pm to
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you'ed have to be stupid as fuk to think that "jurisdiction over legal evidence in a criminal case" somehow disqualifies the rules of the NCAA.
You haven't answered the question - why is the NCAA now back-tracking on their initial rulings/sanctions?
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:53 pm to
Those are emails from the NCAA. They thought it was a stretch...

You can be as morally outraged as you want, but it seems pretty clear the NCAA knew they were bluffing.

Did you even read the article?

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69902 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:54 pm to
Peen state

Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:55 pm to
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stupid as fuk

That's the NCAA for ya.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79179 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:58 pm to
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making observation does not = "angry" but I understand your confusion, because you are stupid.



Nah bro. I've seen your lunatic ranting on the other boards as well.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 4:00 pm to

I don't have to be morally outraged at all. All I have to do is read the bylaws of the NCAA that state the member schools have an obligation to provide a safe environment for students. If you want to argue that pedophiles are "safe for students" that's your prerogative but you look like an idiot doing it.

The fact that the NCAA is led by clowns and weak arse idiots doesn't make any of this "not true", it simply illustrates how poorly run the NCAA is.


Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 4:01 pm to
Yeah clearly, you have a better understanding than NCAA Vice President of Enforcement Julie Roe ....


Again, did you read the article or just going off your years of experience in NCAA rules?

This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 4:02 pm
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
7687 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 4:02 pm to
Regardless of the NCAA overreach, everyone can go back to believing Paterno is an angel and had no idea of the serial rape going on in the facilities.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 4:03 pm to
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I don't have to be morally outraged at all. All I have to do is read the bylaws of the NCAA that state the member schools have an obligation to provide a safe environment for students.


Google how many sexual assault complaints your university had last year. Clearly you should be shut down.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 4:03 pm to
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Yeah clearly, you have a better understanding than NCAA Vice President of Enforcement Julie Roe ...


certainly not out of the question based on the idiocy the NCAA displays on a daily basis. I have read the bylaws but either you haven't or you don't understand what you're reading. Either way the failure is yours.


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Google how many sexual assault complaints your university had last year. Clearly you should be shut down.


lol, case closed, you're a pile of retard shite to come back with that stupidity.


This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 4:05 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 4:06 pm to
So you are saying that the NCAA has the power to take away scholarships, vacate wins, and force a bowl ban if a student athlete rapes another student on campus or in the AD? That is within their rights?

ETA What was the NCAA punishment against Florida A&M for the band hazing death they had?
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 4:37 pm to

no, didnt say that at all, you came up with that stupidity on your own, and I'm sure no one is surprised that you did.
Posted by Col Reb is my mascot
Member since Feb 2012
4165 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 4:37 pm to
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NCAA goes after Penn State on a criminal matter


Lack of institutional control... The football team and the people surrounding that are what allowed it to continue to the extent that it did. Would they have "let" that happen if it was an assistant women's volleyball coach? or a teacher? The football program there is what allowed it to happen, so I'm fine with the NCAA punishing. Now, if they had come forward right away and fired him, got him arrested, etc, then no its not a NCAA issue, but that fact that they put football first is why the NCAA got involved. Now, the NCAA handled it completely wrong, but that's a whole other issue
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 4:57 pm to
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Lack of institutional control... The football team and the people surrounding that are what allowed it to continue to the extent that it did.


not only that it was an "institutional" cover up, so there was also a violation in that regard as well, knowingly covering up a violation is a violation itself.


Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 5:00 pm to
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no, didnt say that at all,


ummm....direct quote from you...

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no, that's incorrect, an NCAA sanctioned University has an obligation to provide a safe atmosphere for students,



ETA AGAIN......what did the NCAA do about the hazing death of the FAMU band member?
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 5:02 pm
Posted by rootisback
Member since Mar 2014
3371 posts
Posted on 1/16/15 at 5:12 pm to
criminal case - no NCAA offenses

Out of NCAA jurisdiction
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