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re: So let's talk about SEC Athletic Directors...

Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:25 am to
Posted by Big4Dawg
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Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:25 am to
SS best higher has been Vic Schaefer, for sure. Done an amazing job with the WBB program.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:25 am to
You don't think Vic Schaefer was a good hire?
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28588 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:26 am to
Long went out and hired one of the best college coaches at the time in Bobby Petrino, and correctly fired him when the time came. Despite his bad reputation, I don't think anyone can blame Long for hiring Petrino. Quitting on a terrible NFL team in the middle of the season is not the same as cheating on your wife and hiring your side piece.

Long hit a home run in stealing away Bert and Mike Anderson, two established successful HC's from the #1 state school in power 5 conferences.

All in all, I rate him a 9/10.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:27 am to
Barnhart has his pros and cons. He struggled with some early hires in football and basketball but has really come into his own with the Stoops and Cal hires. Mostly because he recognized he needed some folks around the program to help out with that. I think his hands were tied by people inside the program on the Joker hire and really, in hindsight we all wanted the guy to do well. The Gillispie hire is really his only major blemish.

He's been top notch for our Olympic sports. The only place he could improve is baseball and they're working on getting a new stadium. He's seen some other sports like track and field and softball really excel.

I'm glad he didn't leave for Kansas a couple years ago.
Posted by AgCoug
Houston
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:29 am to
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The Gillispie hire is really his only major blemish.


And, in fairness, nobody saw that as a bad hire at the time.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:32 am to
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Bjork is the best AD in the conference if he stays off Twitter. I say that as an MSU guy. He's awesome. Came from Western Kentucky I think.



For Ole Miss fans, what has Bjork done? Bianco and Kennedy were hired before his arrival right? Just curious.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:33 am to
a hell of a lot more to being an AD than just hiring coaches.....
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:35 am to
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And, in fairness, nobody saw that as a bad hire at the time.


True. It's just one of those deals where I think he could've vetted the hire better and some other guys would've been better options. But hindsight is 20/20.

He also handled Tubby resigning as well as anyone could have. UK got an endless amount of shite from SJWs over that.

Also has had a big hand in improving facilities outside of basketball. He can definitely take credit for UK being a more well rounded program.
This post was edited on 6/29/15 at 10:37 am
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:38 am to
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a hell of a lot more to being an AD than just hiring coaches.....


True enough, but that doesn't answer my question. I wasn't trying to imply that he hasn't done anything, I'm just legitimately ignorant to the details of his tenure.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18073 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:40 am to
Schaefer was a good hire. I think Studeman was better. She was basically the head coach of a national power that got screwed over when she landed at State.

Schaefer hasn't eclipsed Sharon Fanning-Otis yet. He had a good season last year, and got to the NCAA Tournament as a 5 seed and lost in the second round. Studeman has been to the NCAAs every year since she got here - its why we are spending millions on a new softball stadium to keep her.

Posted by Cheese Grits
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:41 am to
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He struggled with some early hires in football and basketball but has really come into his own with the Stoops and Cal hires.


Stoops pitched MB, so Stoops should get credit for that hire

Top donors wanted Cal the first time around but MB hired BCG, they were more vocal the 2nd time

As for the other stuff, it was long overdue, but most of it has been after the fact after the Line Beads did it first. MB still has not built the stadium he promised Cohen to come to UK. Now he is at State and getting what he asked for at UK.

Like or hate Jurich he probably had the most effect on UK stepping up their game.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:42 am to
You have to consider that it's a hell of a lot easier to field a powerhouse softball team in the SEC than it is a women's basketball team. The softball team should be really good, that should be the standard, not the exception.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18073 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:44 am to
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You have to consider that it's a hell of a lot easier to field a powerhouse softball team in the SEC than it is a women's basketball team. The softball team should be really good, that should be the standard, not the exception.


I'm not sure I follow. I would think the reverse because softball still isn't very good at the high school level in the South. In fact, its pretty awful.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80155 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:46 am to
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But let's hear what you think about your own AD's


Still trying to come up with a defining accomplishment by Eric Hyman.

-He hasn't hired a single coach

-He hasn't fired a single coach

-He granted an extension to a horribly underperforming basketball coach because of a recruiting class who had already signed their LOIs

-He became the first AD in history to be a member of the selection committee for baseball, have a top 8 RPI and FAIL to get his school a national seed. He's probably the only one to lobby FOR that school's eventual opponent.

-His dickheadedness almost drove the football coach to USC

-He fought with the donors on the size of the stadium

D- at best. F if you're being completely objective.
Posted by PNW
Northern Rockies
Member since Mar 2014
6193 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:47 am to
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But let's hear what you think about your own AD's and if you have any opinions on other SEC AD's.



Cheap
Lazy
Old
Too conservative
Mixed priorities

Our panty thief of an AD Damon Evans saw more national championships and football success than McGarity has while at UGA.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:47 am to
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I'm not sure I follow. I would think the reverse because softball still isn't very good at the high school level in the South. In fact, its pretty awful.


It's a lot bigger than basketball. Just look at the rest of the SEC in women's softball compared to women's basketball.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24936 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:51 am to
Was the softball stadium not on the master plan before Steudeman got here?
Posted by AgCoug
Houston
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:52 am to
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-He hasn't hired a single coach

-He hasn't fired a single coach


All true, but Kennedy is really the only coach where a decision needed to be made. I'm going to wait and see what happens this Bball season before I question the decision too much.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24936 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 10:52 am to
Is Stoops considered a good hire? I would think the jury still has to be out on that one.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Member since Apr 2012
54717 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 11:02 am to
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Just look at the rest of the SEC in women's softball compared to women's basketball.


What in the hell??????????

WBB in the SEC is tops in the USA since the NCAA's started for women.

Final Fours in WBB, SEC teams
Tennessee 1982, 1984, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008
Georgia 1983, 1985, 1995, 1996, 1999
LSU 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
Auburn 1988, 1989, 1990
Alabama 1994
Arkansas 1998
South Carolina 2015
Texas A&M 2011
Vanderbilt 1993

Show me another conference that comes close to this?

Only SEC schools to not make a Final Four yet
Florida - Elite Eight in 1997
Kentucky - Elite Eight in 1982, 2010, 2012, and 2013
Ole Miss - Elite Eight in 1985, 1986, 1989, 1992, and 2007
Mississippi State - With Vic, A future Final Four would not surprise me
Missouri -
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