re: So Kyle Allen benches 180 and runs a 4.9

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The best part of this is I'm gonna say 50-60% of you that THINK you can bench 180 and run a 4.9 are sorely mistaken.

ETA: Most Americans are fricking fat, slobbish, not agile, miserable sacks of shite that disgust me. Most of you probably fit that category as well. Odds are in my favor that they do.

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Yes most americans might fit into this mold. However he does not. and your assumption of everyone on here is flawed as well.

Many, many of JFF's plays were made by his ability to abandon the pocket and use his legs to make a great play. How effective will any new QB be with limited experience? A QB with 4.9 speed will have a difficult time using his legs to consistently improvise a successful running play.

I am certain Allen will be a good QB. Just do not expect too much too soon. JFF was a very special QB. QBs like him do not come along very often and aTm will be extremely fortunate to have two such QBs back-to-back. The odds are against that occurring.

Bench press is pretty meaningless stat to focus on for him. I'm sure the A&M staff is focusing on the things he is going to be expected to do in order to make the offense successful.

If Kyle Allen is great at reading defenses and making strong, accurate throws...then I'm willing to be they are comfortable with his abilities.

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Many, many of JFF's plays were made by his ability to abandon the pocket and use his legs to make a great play.

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Yes, but much of the reason he had to do that is because JFF would basically "quit" a play if his first or second read was covered.

If we have a more traditional QB that can go through all his progressions and accurately pass to the fourth WR or to the RB as a safety value then we can lose the QB scrambling and still have an effective offense.

JFF was a freak and we molded our offense for a while to match his talents. Case is a much better example of our QB position going forward.

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Not really impressive when you weigh 380 pounds bro.

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not quite 380 but I am 6'4 270 sadly to say. But I am working on it.

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Yeah it will be a major transition for him. In high school he was playing against 200 pound defensive linemen, the SEC West gauntlet will be a rude awakening.

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The Elite 11 coaches think differently.

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I asked the following question to various coaches at the Elite 11 quarterback competition: "how would [quarterback] do if asked to start as a true freshman?"

The coaches answered, but preferred anonymity. And even then, most would not harshly criticize a player. Keep in mind that the coaches factored in the school to which the player is committed. Included are the thoughts of the coaches, and a bio from the Elite 11 roster.

A chance to succeed

Two names stood out above the rest: Kyle Allen and Deshaun Watson, with David Blough and Jerrod Heard also mentioned frequently.

Kyle Allen, Texas A&M commit: The 6'3, 190-pounder is a consensus four-star quarterback. Allen passed for 3,119 yards and 36 TDs as a junior with only seven interceptions. He had over 20 college offers, including Arizona, Arizona State, Notre Dame, Ohio State and UCLA, before committing to the Texas A&M Aggies.

Several coaches continued to be in awe of how advanced Allen was as a passer -- a sentiment that was present during his regional performance. Allen even ran his team's offense during one practice. Allen makes very few mistakes typical of a high schooler.

With Johnny Manziel potentially leaving for the NFL after the 2013 season, the feeling at the camp was that Allen could step in and hold his own, even in the tough SEC West division.

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Yes, but much of the reason he had to do that is because JFF would basically "quit" a play if his first or second read was covered. If we have a more traditional QB that can go through all his progressions and accurately pass to the fourth WR or to the RB as a safety value then we can lose the QB scrambling and still have an effective offense.

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I am not sure that KA or any QB can consistently depend on going through the progression to the third or fourth receivers. The speed of many SEC defenses will not allow progression reads to that extent.

JFF had an uncanny ability to know when it was time to abandon ship and use his legs. KA will have to make the adjustment to the speed of the SEC. There are so many things happening with the SEC defenses, all at the same time, that there will be a learning curve for any freshman QB.

Reading defenses in high school is quite different from reading SEC defenses. However, this is a year that aTm will not be alone with inexperience at the QB position. You join LSU, SC, Alabama, Georgia and a few that wish they would start a freshman QB.

6 am is an odd time for prom

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I maxed out at 275 yesterday. Anyone that works out even somewhat regularly for half a year should be able to get 180. It's not a lot of weight at all.

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So a 5'8" (average american height) person who weighs about 150 pounds and never worked out a day in his life should be able to bench 180 pounds in 6 months?

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The speed of many SEC defenses will not allow progression reads to that extent.

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If our offense is running correctly we dictate speed TO the defense.

The whole point of the HUNH is to get 3rds and 4ths open by taking away complex defensive plans.

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JFF had an uncanny ability to know when it was time to abandon ship and use his legs.

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There were many times a third was open and he took off. Good thing he has great instincts once scrambling to make up for it.