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re: So Bama Probably Rolls To NC Number

Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:53 pm to
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Bear won a NC as a player, coached a Heisman winner AND a future NC winning Bama coach. Smashed Auburn with a record that I believe was 19-6 over 25 years.....I could go on but I'm too lazy.


Bear Bryant also did pretty much what ever the frick he wanted to because there were basically no rules back in those days. Bear Bryant would just gobble up all the top players from the south and during the season Alabama would have 7,000 players on the sideline.
Posted by tiger114
Fairhope, AL
Member since Sep 2009
5223 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:54 pm to
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Four under Saban this year. Where will that put his legacy in relation to the Bear?

I would put Saban above Bear bc Saban did it without the benefit of paying players...

[Insert pics of Julio and DJ Fluker's cars]

Well, I guess they are about the same.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:55 pm to
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the benefit of paying players
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Auburn fan
Really?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:55 pm to
If you don't think there's more parity when teams go from 130 players to 85, then you just don't get it.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:57 pm to
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I would put Saban above Bear bc Saban did it without the benefit of paying players...
Who said we've stopped paying players?
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13237 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:00 pm to
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If you don't think there's more parity when teams go from 130 players to 85, then you just don't get it.


That's all I was saying but ole blue hair took it personally.
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:01 pm to
Harder to win a NC now with parity.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:04 pm to
Also tougher to recruit these days. Everyone plays on TV every week these days.
Posted by tiger114
Fairhope, AL
Member since Sep 2009
5223 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:09 pm to
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quote: the benefit of paying players quote: Auburn fan Really?


That didn't take long.

Your boys played well yesterday. I feel way less comfortable about the iron bowl as I did 2 weeks ago.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:11 pm to
I've been comfortable in this year's IB since about 10 minutes after the Kick 6. Have you met Saban? Revenge is nigh.
Posted by tiger114
Fairhope, AL
Member since Sep 2009
5223 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:17 pm to
I don't disagree, but I think we are a dangerous team for bama now. Nothing to play for but fricking y'all's nc chance.

Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:22 pm to
Bear Bryant after 7 seasons
60-11-5 (2 national championships) 76 games, should have been 3 NC including 1966
Throw out the ties... ~82%


Nick Saban after 7 seasons
79-15 (3 national championships) 94 games ~81%
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:22 pm to
Auburn had truly nothing to play for in 2011 and 2012 as well. Those did not end pretty.

In 2010 and 2013 Auburn had everything to play for and it showed. I expect the same result this year with "nothing to play for".
Posted by Eitla
Trussville
Member since Nov 2014
118 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:44 pm to
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I would put Saban above Bear bc Saban did it without the benefit of paying players...

[Insert pics of Julio and DJ Fluker's cars]

Well, I guess they are about the same.


Well, Well, Well, I guess you are just retarded, right? If Bryant paid players, every coach pretty much paid players in the 50's, 60's, and 70's.

If Saban doesn't pay players in the 1990's and 2000's, then probably no other coaches are paying players in this era either.

Go back to the Opelika Wal-greens and wait on your fat cow cankled step-wife to end her shift.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:47 pm to
Just stop.
Posted by Eitla
Trussville
Member since Nov 2014
118 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:47 pm to
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Well the personal attack wasn't necessary, but yeah that is basically what I was getting at. Bear Bryant was a smart man. He was better at doing this than most other coaches. He could sell the program, have a ton of scholarship players, and still convince more to sign with Bama. Bear Bryant was like a CEO.


As were all of Alabama's other major foes at the time. Get over it. Sure, not little crappy SEC teams, other than maybe Tennessee for a limited amount of time could handle Alabama but, many other national brands could and did.

Bama competed just like they did. Just like Notre Dame, just like Michigan, just like USC, just like Texas, just like Oklahoma, and just like other big boys.

What many don't realize is that Alabama was not all that concerned with the SEC or the South.

Alabama was competing for national recognition and played the game just as well as anyone.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Eitla
Trussville
Member since Nov 2014
118 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:52 pm to
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Just stop.


frick off, please? As long as Plainsmen wish to claim that Bryant was some radical cheater, unknown to his age, I'll continue to ridicule you and him and them.

Hey, guess what, coaches drank whiskey back then too and it wasn't just Bryant doing it.

Although, listening to a PigHearder from Opelika, you would think that their beloved Coach Shuggy wasn't a slobbering drunk but, guess what, he was by today's standards.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 10:53 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:52 pm to
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Sure, not little crappy SEC teams, other than maybe Tennessee for a limited amount of time could handle Alabama but, many other national brands could and did.

Saban doesn't have that privilege. He has to go against just about every SEC team on top of all the other national brands.
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18617 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:54 pm to
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Sure, not little crappy SEC teams, other than maybe Tennessee for a limited amount of time could handle Alabama but, many other national brands could and did.


Yeah this was my point, which is why I said Bryant dominated recruiting in the south. Jesus dude.
Posted by Eitla
Trussville
Member since Nov 2014
118 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:56 pm to
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Saban doesn't have that privilege. He has to go against just about every SEC team on top of all the other national brands.


Don't you see that no other coaches back then had to fight any harder than Bryant did to be successful?

If Saban has to go against every other SEC team, in death matches, so do other SEC teams whereas they didn't used to have to do that in Bryant's time.

My theory is that everything in it's own time is equal.

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