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re: So Bama Fans, Do you really think LF is average

Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:22 am to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:22 am to
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Actually, we think the D-line is good enough that we don't have to completely sell out to stop the run.


So you think you can go 4 on 5 against our O-Line and John David Moore and hold Fournette under 200+?

Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:22 am to
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And we have the best defensive line in the SEC. Let's just wait and see what happens.


agreed.....but btw, LSU's DL ain't no slouch....at all. and our MLB is a beast.....should be a great game....it's a damn shame that these two teams share the same conference....far to often they are two of the best in the nation...and this year is another example. You guys have had our number lately, although LSU has typically played well. Here's to another slugfest.
Posted by UserName69
Member since Sep 2014
1613 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:24 am to
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Actually, we think the D-line is good enough that we don't have to completely sell out to stop the run.


This is what scares me the most. Although I think you'll need the whole front 7 to slow down/stop LF, you won't have to bring 8 or 9 in the box like many other teams do.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41886 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:26 am to
Why do we care what they think?

LF & LSU have the opportunity to seal the deal in a few weeks.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:26 am to
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Actually, we think the D-line is good enough that we don't have to completely sell out to stop the run.


We will see. I don't think this happens...I think you are underestimating our OL and LF....he just needs a crease that's his greatest improvement...his vision and burst to the hole...and well, his ability to make the lbs miss at the second level.

Honestly, you better hope this is the case...and if you can accomplish this...you stand a good chance to win. If you can't, I do think BH will hurt you.







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Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3361 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:26 am to
I believe Peterson ran about a 4.45 and that was super fast for a RB that size. Im not sure LF is quite that fast or at least he doesn't look as fast. Anything in the 4.5 range for a RB of LFs size is spectacular.
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4172 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:27 am to
All I was doing was replying to a post about his 40 time. The NFL combine is the best indicator.

Reread my post and accept the LF compliment.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:28 am to
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Why do we care what they think?


IDK man...because this is a message board?
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16169 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:29 am to
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Unless you think all the db's he has played have been slower than 4.5. When he breaks away...unless they have an angle, they don't make up ground on him....and in many cases, he pulls away. He isn't 4.2....but he isn't 4.5 either....and at that size....


Running the 40 is very different than breaking a long run on the actual football field. I don't know why people get so caught up in the damn 40. Much like the bench press, it really has very little to do with how good someone is on the field.

The 40 is so much about timing and technique, one slight hiccup can be the difference between a 4.4 and a 4.5. Never is a running back going to have to run 0-40 yards in a 3 point stance during a game. Fournette is damn fast for his size, but whether he runs a 4.5 or a 4.4 doesn't really matter.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24904 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:29 am to
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So you think you can go 4 on 5 against our O-Line and John David Moore and hold Fournette under 200+?


Nobody said that. Alabama isn't dropping 7 into coverage. The point being made is that Alabama may be better equipped than most to play LSU straight up in the run game. That means 3 to 4 dlinemen with 4 to 3 LBs playing the gaps. That means not having to commit safeties which exposes the pass defense.

I doesn't mean play 4 against 5 or 6 in the run game.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:30 am to
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Anything in the 4.5 range for a RB of LFs size is spectacular.


and that's why he is spectacular....there was a reason he was returning kickoffs last year as a TF...and it wasn't because he ran a 4.6 or due to some agreement with Les (well, maybe a little on this one..lol)
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51798 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:30 am to
Why are LSU fans so damn insecure? Did Nicky leaving screw ya'll up that bad?


ALL of my friends are Bama fans and they ALL, without exception think LF is the best player in the country by a long damn shot.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:32 am to
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The 40 is so much about timing and technique, one slight hiccup can be the difference between a 4.4 and a 4.5. Never is a running back going to have to run 0-40 yards in a 3 point stance during a game. Fournette is damn fast for his size, but whether he runs a 4.5 or a 4.4 doesn't really matter.


agreed. My point is that no one catches him straight up...or even gains on him generally. I doubt he even does much at the combine....
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36509 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:32 am to
I mean, I'm not attacking you. Look at what the comment above yours is. All Day ran a 4.45. Fournette's probably not going to touch that. It doesn't matter.

It's rare for an RB to put up those kinds of numbers.

The player at any level of football that has the speed to overtake LF7 and the strength to tackle him is rare also.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:33 am to
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So you think you can go 4 on 5 against our O-Line and John David Moore and hold Fournette under 200+?

You're better than this. Right?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43810 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:33 am to
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I believe Peterson ran about a 4.45 and that was super fast for a RB that size. Im not sure LF is quite that fast or at least he doesn't look as fast. Anything in the 4.5 range for a RB of LFs size is spectacular.


It has been reported LF ran a 4.35 in high school. It's a safe assumption to add AT LEAST 1/10th of a second to that, and as much as 2/10th's.

He will run 4.5 to 4.55 IMO.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24904 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:34 am to
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So Bama Fans, Do you really think LF is average
speed wise? There was a thread on your board where many posters were saying that he is probably in the 4.5 range


Why don't you quote some of the posts you read that you found objectionable?
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:34 am to
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If it takes him 40 or more


There is no way he gets to 40 win or lose
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8090 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:34 am to
He's fast! Has an incredible 1st step and can accelerate.
Watching LF run is something special. Hits the hole wide open and always has his shoulders squared. Has great lower body control, incredible balance and will not get caught from behind once in the open field.

The key to slowing him down is to not allow him to get his momentum going forward and his shoulders getting squared to the los. Easier said than done!

Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21688 posts
Posted on 10/22/15 at 10:34 am to
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So you think you can go 4 on 5 against our O-Line and John David Moore and hold Fournette under 200+?


I think Bama can afford to be much more judicious on when to commit extra players to the box compared to most teams. That's what I think. And, I'm under no delusion that LF isn't going to get his yards.
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