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re: Slowing down offenses - the not-so-Objective POV

Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:07 am to
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31892 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:07 am to
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The others run on. It's simple as boudin balls dude. Which again, makes clear to anyone with a pulse and an IQ over Forrest Gump/10, that this is a bullshite premise.


...simple....spoken by someone who has no idea of how sideline operations work.

You're angry. I get it. Too bad the rule will likely pass.
Posted by tkane311
Mo-billionaire
Member since Oct 2009
2336 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:08 am to
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If you played football long enough, you'd understand that olineman are geared for delivering the initial blow whereas the dlineman are geared for read-n-react which is receiving it. Unless they are just blowing gaps/stunting every play, the physics of the situation are way in the favor of the olineman.


Yes...hence why Auburn utilized around 10 rotating D-Linemen. Subbed the hell out of them...against HUNH teams. SO what's the problem? You can't figure out how to defend them, don't want to sub more quickly...so you just change the rules?

I have a better idea. Since player safety isn't affect by the HUNH, which is statistically a fact, let's take away the rule that says when offenses sub, defenses have to have the opportunity to sub. Let's also allow the center to spot the ball and spike if the ref gives him the ok. That will make it literally possible for a HUNH offense to run a play within 5 seconds of a tackle. Giving the HUNH an advantage over what occurs currently. I mean, other than Auburn 2010, pro-style teams have won every national championship since God knows when...so clearly it isn't fair and already slanted toward pro-style teams
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7539 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:08 am to
It'll always be called a gimmick by butthurt people.

Example: Arkansas calling Auburn's offense a "gimmick."
Posted by minor
Member since Aug 2012
656 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:08 am to
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dumbass? care to read the rules? they are not allocated time unless the offense substitutes.


Holy shite! The offenses are teleporting immediately to their positions at the line of scrimmage and snapping the ball??!?!?!

I agree, that should be outlawed
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31892 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:09 am to
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wow how specific and I believe you that a fricking knee injury was caused by the HUNH kill yourself dipshit



....wow....such venom.
Posted by tkane311
Mo-billionaire
Member since Oct 2009
2336 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:09 am to
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...simple....spoken by someone who has no idea of how sideline operations work.

You're angry. I get it. Too bad the rule will likely pass.



Are you the dumbest motherfricker on Earth? Since I know that Auburn subs whenever they want against HUNH teams, using the method that I drew in crayon for your dumbass, what the frick do I need to know about sideline operations?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31892 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:09 am to
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Since player safety isn't affect by the HUNH, which is statistically a fact



link?
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:10 am to
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ok...so what's the problem? LSU had no problem stopping us and shutting us down as every LSU fans keeps saying, so someone could stop us

so, what's the problem?


You and I both know it was the rain that stopped Auburn that day.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31892 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:10 am to
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Are you the dumbest motherfricker on Earth? Since I know that Auburn subs whenever they want against HUNH teams, using the method that I drew in crayon for your dumbass, what the frick do I need to know about sideline operations?


...let it flow....goooooodddd.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26510 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:10 am to
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You dumbass. If the subs are ready, they can sub after every play. Auburn did it all year...and against HUNH teams. As soon as the tackle is made, you run off. The others run on. It's simple as boudin balls dude. Which again, makes clear to anyone with a pulse and an IQ over Forrest Gump/10, that this is a bullshite premise. It's the slow pro-style teams trying to change to rules to fit their approach. Don't you get it though? Seriously...do you really want Bama to win every single year without fail? This is a good way to do it.


It'll be hard to get subs on and off the field and call a play in ten seconds.

SRSLY DOE, all the rule changes, lately, have favored the offenses. How about one for the defenses, for a change?

This is coming from an Ole Miss fan, by the way.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:10 am to
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If you played football long enough, you'd understand that olineman are geared for delivering the initial blow whereas the dlineman are geared for read-n-react which is receiving it.



I did play long enough to know how the game is played and my argument holds up. I'm sorry but this is a S&C issue yhe defense can sub any time from when the play is blown dead so have your guys ready and get it done. That's what most offenses do so why can't the defense do it as well. Oh and don't givr me that we have to see what personel the offense has on the field BS because that's just what that is BS.
Posted by beaver
The 755 Club
Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:11 am to
because you know jackshit about football and come here calling yourself objective
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31892 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:11 am to
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quote:ok...so what's the problem? LSU had no problem stopping us and shutting us down as every LSU fans keeps saying, so someone could stop us so, what's the problem? You and I both know it was the rain that stopped Auburn that day.



see, that's the point. Auburn is LSU's bitch, so I really don't have a dog in the fight as LSU is typically staffed to handle the HUNH.

BUT, I agree with Saban on this one.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:12 am to
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link?


"For all of FBS football in 2012, the ‘fast’ teams averaged over 17 plays per game more than the bottom 20 ‘slow’ teams. This is 26% more plays run per game than a ‘slow’ teams. Even though this adds up to over 340 more plays run in a season, the ‘slow’ teams still lost 8 more starts to injury than the ‘fast teams. Additionally, the average number of starts lost per play was 33% HIGHER for the ‘slow’ teams. Although this is all FBS programs and just the 2012 season, that is a huge argument in favor of ‘fast’ play."

your argument is bullshite
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31892 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:12 am to
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because you know jackshit about football and come here calling yourself objective


I know more than you
Posted by tkane311
Mo-billionaire
Member since Oct 2009
2336 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:13 am to
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Are you the dumbest motherfricker on Earth? Since I know that Auburn subs whenever they want against HUNH teams, using the method that I drew in crayon for your dumbass, what the frick do I need to know about sideline operations?


Oh, I see where you don't have shite to say now. Like I thought.

Charles: "I see where you have ice there...prove to me that it is frozen water".

Tkane: "you are a dumbass"

Charles: "let it flow...I am objective..."

Keep it up buddy...looking real good right now.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:14 am to
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The defense tried to substitute and got a 5 yard penalty. 3 plays later a kid went down with an obvious knee injury when he was overrun at the point of attack. During the replay, the dynamics of the play indicated he was weakened.
So the kid was too tired to play after 3 plays? Why didn't he get subbed out on the penalty if he was in such a fragile state? How many consecutive plays had he been in on and how many substitutions did the offense and defense make in that time period. More importantly, how about you tell us who the player was and what game it was so we can evaluate your claim rather than just trusting you. ?
Posted by beaver
The 755 Club
Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:15 am to
Why don't you go hangout w LSUgranddad and talk about how tough world war 2 was?

The game has clearly passed your old arse by
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:15 am to
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If you are worried about player safety....

Hits should be outlawed


FIFY
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:15 am to
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"For all of FBS football in 2012, the ‘fast’ teams averaged over 17 plays per game more than the bottom 20 ‘slow’ teams. This is 26% more plays run per game than a ‘slow’ teams. Even though this adds up to over 340 more plays run in a season, the ‘slow’ teams still lost 8 more starts to injury than the ‘fast teams. Additionally, the average number of starts lost per play was 33% HIGHER for the ‘slow’ teams. Although this is all FBS programs and just the 2012 season, that is a huge argument in favor of ‘fast’ play."

your argument is bullshite
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