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re: Slive's love affair with Atlanta
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:48 am to DaleDenton
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:48 am to DaleDenton
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Proximity is what is suppose to make Atlanta so popular.
This comment has been made multiple times on this site, and I don't get it.
Why is it impossible for folks to travel by plane, like the rest of the civilized world does?
Do people ride their bikes to SEC events?
I'm not trying to be obnoxious; but the entire topic makes me chuckle.
Live a little, SEC. Push yourself out of your 200 mile provincial comfort zone.
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:52 am to EKG
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Why is it impossible for folks to travel by plane, like the rest of the civilized world does?
If we're assuming everyone is travelling by plane it makes ATL an even more obvious choice. Nashville is a big SWA city too but nowhere on the level of ATL. For nonstop flights it doesn't get much better in the SEC footprint than Atlanta.
Hell, Atlanta is the only hub airport within the SEC footprint except for the non-centrally located hub cities like Miami and Dallas and maybe Charlotte (which is obviously not in an SEC state.)
This post was edited on 3/15/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:53 am to EKG
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This comment has been made multiple times on this site, and I don't get it.
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Why is it impossible for folks to travel by plane, like the rest of the civilized world does?
The answer to both is money.
Driving is cheaper than flying so the more folks that can drive increases the gate. With basketball last min plane flights and getting raped by 2x - 4x hotel rates it is a question of cost.
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Push yourself out of your 200 mile provincial comfort zone.
You clearly do not get the difference between money and attendance numbers.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:54 am to Mizzeaux
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If we're assuming everyone is travelling by plane it makes ATL an even more obvious choice.
I'm not assuming that.
I'm assuming the people who choose not to drive would be traveling by plane (regardless of where in the SEC an event is held, many people would/could drive).
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:55 am to EKG
I really don't understand why people want to change it. The football championship is currently held in the city with the most diverse and strong SEC alumni population in the country. This city also has the biggest airport in the country, making travel as easy as possible for as many people as possible. The current setup has created by far the most successful conference championship game in the country, and to top it off, Atlanta is building a brand new stadium that will be ready in a few years. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Also, as has already been mentioned, if we start rotating it out of Atlanta, the ACC will take the SEC's place and won't let go. We'll never be able to have it there again.
Also, as has already been mentioned, if we start rotating it out of Atlanta, the ACC will take the SEC's place and won't let go. We'll never be able to have it there again.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:55 am to EKG
Only , TXAM and MIZZ have to fly to ATL,
All other fan bases are less than 7 hours drive time.
So it is more easy to travel to.
You could feasibly leave NO in the morning and still make It to Atlanta in time for a game.
Avg cost of gas round trip for a single vehicle under $200.
All other fan bases are less than 7 hours drive time.
So it is more easy to travel to.
You could feasibly leave NO in the morning and still make It to Atlanta in time for a game.
Avg cost of gas round trip for a single vehicle under $200.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:56 am to Cheese Grits
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The answer to both is money.
A plane ticket is a financial hardship?
That surprises me, that's all.
Just another opinion.
Carry on.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:59 am to EKG
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I'm assuming the people who choose not to drive would be traveling by plane
Again, cheapest to fly to ATL than the other airports from most SEC points of origin. Just look at the basketball equation. If UK wins today they can get in a car and drive to the game tomorrow and drive back the same day. Contrast that with getting decent plane with such a short window. Cost is too high for most folks. Not everybody is oil rich in the SEC footprint. Eastern KY is a straight shot down I - 75 to ATL. Also, Atlanta has probably the most SEC fans of any city in the SEC.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:02 am to 3rddownonthe8
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Avg cost of gas round trip for a single vehicle under $200.
For basketball it may be half of that for UK and UT fans, and they are the bulk of the folks that buy the tickets.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:02 am to Cheese Grits
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Atlanta has probably the most SEC fans of any city in the SEC.
I don't think there's a close second
Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:02 am to Cheese Grits
So it sounds to me like you're saying conference decisions should be based on what's "cheapest" for the fans.
If that's the case, indeed, Atlanta makes sense for many who live in the "SEC footprint."
If that's the case, indeed, Atlanta makes sense for many who live in the "SEC footprint."
Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:02 am to EKG
quote:For an SEC Basketball Tournament? Yes. Especially if your team is already projected to go to the NCAA tournament.
A plane ticket is a financial hardship?
Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:03 am to EKG
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A plane ticket is a financial hardship?
Last second plane tickets and last second hotels can be. Car and no hotel is very inexpensive compared to the other 2.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:06 am to cornhat
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For an SEC Basketball Tournament? Yes. Especially if your team is already projected to go to the NCAA tournament.
Exactly. I like to keep the SEC as cheap as possible, especially when I think UF is going to make a deep run.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:10 am to EKG
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So it sounds to me like you're saying conference decisions should be based on what's "cheapest" for the fans.
The cheaper the cost - for basketball especially - means the better attendance. Can you see 120,000 Texas A&M fans traveling to a basketball game? If so, great and make a case for Houston or Orlando but if not drop your argument. Unless schools travel well like UK and UT then SEC should cater to the folks who actually show up and make the venue look filled on TV. Why do you think I harp on attendance numbers all the time?
The biggest selling point of the SEC is the atmosphere you see on TV. In football at least half the conference brings crowds that look good on TV. In basketball it is pretty much just 2 schools.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:12 am to Cheese Grits
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drop your argument
I'm not arguing, I'm just discussing.
I find this whole topic interesting, that's all.
Didn't realize the cost was the main issue for so many.
Thanks.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:13 am to Landmass
Atlanta
SCHOOL - DISTANCE - MINUTES OF DRIVE TIME
UGA - 71 miles - 74 minutes
Auburn - 108 miles - 97 minutes
Alabama - 202 miles - 179 minutes
Tennessee - 213 miles - 187 minutes
South Carolina - 214 miles - 185 minutes
Vanderbilt - 249 miles - 221 minutes
Miss State - 286 miles - 262 minutes
Florida - 331 miles - 286 minutes
Ole Miss - 333 miles - 310 minutes
Kentucky - 380 miles - 336 minutes
LSU - 524 miles - 447 minutes
Missouri - 677 miles - 597 minutes
Arkansas - 702 miles - 632 minutes
Texas A&M - 827 miles - 735 minutes
AVERAGE - 365 miles - 325 minutes (5h25m)
New Orleans
SCHOOL - DISTANCE - MINUTES OF DRIVE TIME
LSU - 80 miles - 77 minutes
Alabama - 292 miles - 249 minutes
Miss State - 293 miles - 263 minutes
Ole Miss - 346 miles - 311 minutes
Auburn - 363 miles - 311 minutes
Texas A&M - 440 miles - 391 minutes
Florida - 532 miles - 451 minutes
Vanderbilt - 532 miles - 451 minutes
UGA - 532 miles - 467 minutes
Tennessee - 599 miles - 516 minutes
Arkansas - 613 miles - 571 minutes
South Carolina - 677 miles - 577 minutes
Kentucky - 745 miles - 637 minutes
Missouri - 787 miles - 680 minutes
AVERAGE - 488 miles - 425 minutes (7h5m)
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DISCLAIMERS:
-All of this is from google maps so take from it what you will.
-Didn't do Houston or STL but they would both be terrible.
-IDGAF make your own list.
SCHOOL - DISTANCE - MINUTES OF DRIVE TIME
UGA - 71 miles - 74 minutes
Auburn - 108 miles - 97 minutes
Alabama - 202 miles - 179 minutes
Tennessee - 213 miles - 187 minutes
South Carolina - 214 miles - 185 minutes
Vanderbilt - 249 miles - 221 minutes
Miss State - 286 miles - 262 minutes
Florida - 331 miles - 286 minutes
Ole Miss - 333 miles - 310 minutes
Kentucky - 380 miles - 336 minutes
LSU - 524 miles - 447 minutes
Missouri - 677 miles - 597 minutes
Arkansas - 702 miles - 632 minutes
Texas A&M - 827 miles - 735 minutes
AVERAGE - 365 miles - 325 minutes (5h25m)
New Orleans
SCHOOL - DISTANCE - MINUTES OF DRIVE TIME
LSU - 80 miles - 77 minutes
Alabama - 292 miles - 249 minutes
Miss State - 293 miles - 263 minutes
Ole Miss - 346 miles - 311 minutes
Auburn - 363 miles - 311 minutes
Texas A&M - 440 miles - 391 minutes
Florida - 532 miles - 451 minutes
Vanderbilt - 532 miles - 451 minutes
UGA - 532 miles - 467 minutes
Tennessee - 599 miles - 516 minutes
Arkansas - 613 miles - 571 minutes
South Carolina - 677 miles - 577 minutes
Kentucky - 745 miles - 637 minutes
Missouri - 787 miles - 680 minutes
AVERAGE - 488 miles - 425 minutes (7h5m)
==========================
DISCLAIMERS:
-All of this is from google maps so take from it what you will.
-Didn't do Houston or STL but they would both be terrible.
quote:
List is shite, it doesn't take that long to get to X
-IDGAF make your own list.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:15 am to EKG
As far as attendance figures, I don't understand why there aren't any more people at the tournament. Within the last week I've been offered free tickets to three conference basketball tournaments here in Vegas.
When you see the WAC, WCC, Pac 12, or MWC tournaments here in Vegas, there aren't nearly as many empty seats. The fact that the SEC tournament is in the Georgia Dome makes even more of a case for throwing tickets out of a helicopter and hoping people show up.
When you see the WAC, WCC, Pac 12, or MWC tournaments here in Vegas, there aren't nearly as many empty seats. The fact that the SEC tournament is in the Georgia Dome makes even more of a case for throwing tickets out of a helicopter and hoping people show up.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:16 am to EKG
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So it sounds to me like you're saying conference decisions should be based on what's "cheapest" for the fans.
Football you have a week to get tickets if the conference comes down to the last week of the season.
Basketball is the same, and most folks really attend the semi's and final.
Easier to redistribute just tickets in a week than hotel and plane expenses.
Lets say they put the M or W basketball tournament in Houston. Do you really think it will be well attended by UK and UT? Like it or not, you cater to the schools that can bring the most fans. Simple economics.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 11:18 am to Landmass
InB4whiningaboutSECbaseballtournamentbeinginHoover
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