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re: Since '80, what dynasty comes in 2nd place behind the current Alabama dynasty?
Posted on 12/15/13 at 10:10 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Posted on 12/15/13 at 10:10 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Since 80's?
01. NU 94-97 (4 seasons), 49-2, 3 undefeated seasons, 3 NC's, 3 CC's.
02. Canes, 87-91 (5 seasons), 56-4, 2 undefeated seasons, 3 NC's, 1 CC (Big East, Independent 87-90)
03. UA, 09-13, (5 seasons), 60-5, 1 undefeated season, 3 NC's, 2 CC's
Here is your order and I hate, I mean HATE the fricking Huskers but they were simply unreal (got lucky on that Flea Kicker though)
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 10:11 pm to Tackle74
Tommy Frazier was the OG of Superman...Tebow, Cam, JFF...step aside.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 10:14 pm to stevo1905
You cant go 0-8 in the sec and include the year in the "dynasty" span
Stupid barner
Posted on 12/15/13 at 10:39 pm to KSGamecock
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Nebraska pretty easily.
Why won't anybody discuss the relative strengths of conferences and competition? We're comparing UA's run in today's SEC versus the 90's Big 8, the ACC, and the Big East. Is that really fair?
Posted on 12/15/13 at 10:49 pm to Gardevoir
if you go back and look the Big 8 was pretty good some of those years. In 1995 Nebraska played a really good schedule including 10-2 Kansas, Kansas State, and Colorado. They all dominated out of conference and only lost games to the other elite programs in the Big 8 that year.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 10:58 pm to molsusports
Nebraska is definitely #1.
USC played a shite schedule nearly every year that run occasionally playing a powerhouse here and there. Bama hadn't gone undefeated any year since then, but Jesus, USC had all those HTWs cause they had blue blood ballers playing under a cocky arse coach who ran up the score every game. There might be a little bias in these statements but Alabama is clearly above USC just by sheer observation of strength of schedule.
USC played a shite schedule nearly every year that run occasionally playing a powerhouse here and there. Bama hadn't gone undefeated any year since then, but Jesus, USC had all those HTWs cause they had blue blood ballers playing under a cocky arse coach who ran up the score every game. There might be a little bias in these statements but Alabama is clearly above USC just by sheer observation of strength of schedule.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 10:59 pm to molsusports
The question is since the 80's...
Some of you are really young but for those of us who remember and have first hand knowledge...
Nebraska was consistently overrated in the 80's - always ranked in the Top 5 playing a weak schedule...and then losing in their bowl game against a top opponent.
From 1980 - 1994 Nebraska lost 10 Bowl games.
10!!!!
Then they sold out...went for a hot 3 year run when Oklahoma flamed out and went into the tank...and their only competition was a rising Colorado program.
Then Nebraska has sucked this past decade.
So in the last 30 years...3-4 years of a dominant run...doesn't really make a 3 decade long GOAT dynasty.
Sorry, young ones.
Some of you are really young but for those of us who remember and have first hand knowledge...
Nebraska was consistently overrated in the 80's - always ranked in the Top 5 playing a weak schedule...and then losing in their bowl game against a top opponent.
From 1980 - 1994 Nebraska lost 10 Bowl games.
10!!!!
Then they sold out...went for a hot 3 year run when Oklahoma flamed out and went into the tank...and their only competition was a rising Colorado program.
Then Nebraska has sucked this past decade.
So in the last 30 years...3-4 years of a dominant run...doesn't really make a 3 decade long GOAT dynasty.
Sorry, young ones.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 10:59 pm to molsusports
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if you go back and look the Big 8 was pretty good some of those years. In 1995 Nebraska played a really good schedule including 10-2 Kansas, Kansas State, and Colorado. They all dominated out of conference and only lost games to the other elite programs in the Big 8 that year.
Thanks for looking at more of the picture. If you're going to compare dynasties, you must compare "the game" and the competition.
This post was edited on 12/15/13 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 12/15/13 at 11:06 pm to Zamoro10
I don't think you understand what's being asked.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 11:09 pm to Boom Angry
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I don't think you understand what's being asked.
yeah, he missed the point
if it was who won the most championships since the 80s through today that's Miami. but that's not the question. the question was what team had the best short window of dominance like the 90s Nebraska, 00s Alabama, 90s FSU, 00s Miami, 00s USC, 00s LSU, 00s Florida teams
Posted on 12/15/13 at 11:11 pm to Dr Lecter
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. Mid 90's Nesbraska (disputed NCs lower them)
Posted on 12/15/13 at 11:34 pm to Zamoro10
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So in the last 30 years...3-4 years of a dominant run...doesn't really make a 3 decade long GOAT dynasty.
90% of your post is correct except for this part. They weren't just good from 1994-1997. Their run actually lasted from 1993-2001. They won three national championships, played in five national championship games, and was one loss away from playing for two more national titles (1996, 1999). They finished in the top 10 eight times in nine years from 1993-2001. That's really impressive.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:14 am to Bench McElroy
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Bench
I'm not saying their run wasn't impressive in the 90's.
But I grew up with Nebraska in the 80's - they were known as the overrated program that couldn't get it done against the big boys.
If 80's Nebraska were playing today...SEC fan would make fun of them worse than Ohio State.
They lost way more in big bowl games than Ohio State...just were outclassed with speed.
But SEC fan adores Nebraska in the 90's because SEC overrates SEC 90's football and Nebraska demolished Florida - who owned the SEC in the 90's.
Ergo...Nebraska must be the best.
It's a fallacy stemming from SEC fandom and young SEC fans thinking SEC football in the 90's was remotely akin to the last 7 years.
It wasn't. There's a reason Florida dominated the conference...SEC football wasn't that good. I know, I saw it.
And Nebraska's 90's run did coincide with their biggest rival in their small conference...being WAY down. Oklahoma.
It would be like if Auburn and LSU suddenly totally stunk in the SEC West for Alabama to flourish.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 12:17 am
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:20 am to Rickdaddy4188
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I'm talking about final rankings. In the regular season , bama has lost to its highest ranked opponent for four straight years.
Yet, when we play for the title, we win, so why does it matter?
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:29 am to Zamoro10
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But SEC fan adores Nebraska in the 90's because SEC overrates SEC 90's football and Nebraska demolished Florida - who owned the SEC in the 90's.
Ergo...Nebraska must be the best.
Nebraska in that run didn't just demolish Florida, they demolished pretty much everyone they played. Between 1994 and 1997 out of conference they beat:
Michigan State (twice)
Virginia Tech
Miami
West Virginia
Florida
Tennessee
Texas Tech
Colorado State
Washington
Arizona State
Washington State
UCLA
Again, that's in only four seasons
Posted on 12/16/13 at 5:13 am to Dr Lecter
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current
Posted on 12/16/13 at 5:45 am to stevo1905
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Auburn 04-13
Including 2 losing seasons
Posted on 12/16/13 at 6:08 am to FourThreeForty
Alabama's not a dynasty win your conference more than twice then we will talk
Posted on 12/16/13 at 7:48 am to Tackle74
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Since 80's?
01. NU 94-97 (4 seasons), 49-2, 3 undefeated seasons, 3 NC's, 3 CC's.
02. Canes, 87-91 (5 seasons), 56-4, 2 undefeated seasons, 3 NC's, 1 CC (Big East, Independent 87-90)
03. UA, 09-13, (5 seasons), 60-5, 1 undefeated season, 3 NC's, 2 CC's
Here is your order and I hate, I mean HATE the fricking Huskers but they were simply unreal (got lucky on that Flea Kicker though)
prolly the most accurate ...
Posted on 12/16/13 at 8:23 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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01. NU 94-97 (4 seasons), 49-2, 3 undefeated seasons, 3 NC's, 3 CC's.
02. Canes, 87-91 (5 seasons), 56-4, 2 undefeated seasons, 3 NC's, 1 CC (Big East, Independent 87-90)
03. UA, 09-13, (5 seasons), 60-5, 1 undefeated season, 3 NC's, 2 CC's
You could also make a case for the UGA Herschel years:
UGA, 80-83, (4 seasons), 43-4-1, 1 undefeated season, 1 NC (3 appearances), 3 CC's
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