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re: Serious question for LSU fans (about linebackers)

Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:23 pm to
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I really do appreciate the responses and the discussion. I was just genuinely curious after I kept flipping through 247 and noticed it.

I also looked through and it isn't like Chavis didn't land LA recruits, the only one that was a 4 star that was missed out on was Kenny Young in 2014. I guess the issue is he didn't move out of state enough to try and pick them up.



Keep in mind Chavis RARELY actually recruited any of the LBs we have. They were recruited by someone else on staff. Chief's big "Recruiting pull" was Clifton Garrett, a complete bust.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:25 pm to
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Well because it's like your opinion man, and clearly not very correct.


Jacknola is one of the stupidest assholes on this board. He's a bitchy count in Louisiana who became an Alabama "fan" around 2007.
Posted by FightinTiga
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:25 pm to
Obviously he doesn't know Jack shite
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:26 pm to
The LB situation has a number of roots.

First Chavis laziness in recruiting combined with the fact that our base essentially with him was nickel and one of the LBs would be a converted safety due to him preferring small quick LBs.

Second in louisiana it just isnt fashionable for those type of athletes to be on the defensive side of the ball. Look at Fournette-wanted to be RB. Back to Charles Scott, Keiland williams. Guys in that mold are playing RB.

The three linebacker "misses" from Louisiana are Tim Williams who we cooled on and was recruited to play D end and is a pass rushing olb. And Denzell Devall who didnt fit Chavis' system whatsoever. Up until now the only LB that would have fit us is Kenny Young.


The biggest recruit for us this year is Kendall Beckwith
This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 4:28 pm
Posted by LSU2a
SWLA to Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:28 pm to
I guess I'll be the idiot that actually takes the time to research this issue instead of pulling shite out of my arse.

Signed LB Recruits

2005
*** Darry Beckwith
2006
**** Derrick Odom
*** Kelvin Sheppard
*** Perry Riley
2007 - none
2008
**** Ryan Baker
**** Kyle Prater
2009
**** Kevin Minter
**** Barkevious Mingo (would go on to play DE)
*** Lamin Barrow
*** Tahj Jones
* Seth Fruge
2010 Chavis's first recruiting class
*** Luke Muncie
*** DJ Welter
2011
**** Trevon Randle
2012
**** Kwon Alexander
**** Lorenzo Phillips
**** Ronnie Feist
**** Lamar Louis
*** Deion Jones
*** Trey Granier
2013
**** Kendell Beckwith
**** Melvin Jones
*** Duke Riley
2014
*****Clifton Garret
*** Donnie Alexander
2015 - none - Last recruiting class for Chavis
2016
**** Michael Divinity
**** Erick Fowler

So what can we conclude from this? LSU has run a 4-3 defense since Miles arrived in 2005. A typical 4-3 defense needs 6-8 scholarship linebackers on the roster per season. Assuming that each recruit stays for 3.5 years, that would require you to sign an average of two per year (ideally three to account for busts). During Chavis's time at LSU we average 2.33 linebackers per year. Without Chavis, LSU averages 2 linebackers per year. Not much of a difference. Did Chavis get lazy before he burned bridges and left? Maybe.
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