re: Serious question for LSU fans (about linebackers)

Been through this already.

Chavis scheme did not place a premium on LBs. Recruiting demonstrates it.

He converted safeties to LBs and favored smaller, quicker DEs.

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cop out answer by tiggers to insinuate that the DC has more control over who will be signed rather than the HC

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No one said that, gump. Reading comprehension is your friend.

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That's interesting. I guess I falsely assumed Les was in charge of what recruits to go after, but you're all saying Chavis just doesn't recruit linebackers?

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Miles was very hands-off with Chavis. He let him run the D with pretty much complete autonomy. Chavis' biggest failure was holding onto Brick Haley. He and Raymond were supposed to spearhead defensive recruiting, along with Peveto when he came back. Brick got progressively worse as time wore on, and there just seemed to be no long-term recruiting plan in place.

After this class, we should finally be turning the corner on depth and talent, but we will still be very inexperienced at LB until 2017. It takes a long time to dig out from poor or inconsistent recruiting.

any response, corndog, that says chavis is responsible is an inadvertent, cop out answer to explain why miles did not sign a single LB last year.

meanwhile there are several Who posters in this thread saying chavis.

You're not listening to the whole story. Shocker...

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cop out answer by tiggers to insinuate that the DC has more control over who will be signed rather than the HC

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When you have a head coach with an offensive background who puts complete trust in his DC? Plenty of head coaches let the coordinator on the other side of the ball set their own recruiting board.

Ultimately, Miles should have stepped in and put his foot down about Brick, even if Chavis had stayed. I'll give you that. Too much trust and complacency are a bad combo.

Yup. Godcheaux is a scrub

The issue with Kenny young is one of the few that Chavis did recruit was Garret who was the 5* bust that transferred. Go figure, we didn't turn up the head on young until late and it was too late.

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Linebackers were Chavis job. Chavis didn't recruit. There has been a press for linebackers since Chavis left.

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That explanation plays right into the "Fire Miles" rhetoric. Chavis was an assistant. Some coaches are hands-off on gameday. That's often sensible. You don't want to handcuff a decent coordinator. But no rational coach allows an assistant to dictate recruiting to the extent that they completely ignore one of the more important positions on the field. That's not handcuffing, that's completely ignoring a problem. If Chavis wasn't recruiting LBs, Miles should have stepped in and fixed that problem with extreme prejudice.

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If Chavis wasn't recruiting LBs, Miles should have stepped in and fixed that problem with extreme prejudice.

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I don't think any of us will argue with you on this. However, Miles has a history of correcting problems like this a year or two too late.

The concerning thing is, I wonder if he would have done anything about Brick by now if Chavis had stayed. He was coming in 2nd or 3rd for every top player he recruited, and then reached for guys late. All of those guys are now gone due to discipline issues or just not being that great. The multiple interview comments out of MN concerning D. Hunter and how poorly he was coached are also pretty damning.

LB isn't the only position where a guy got complacent and Miles moved too slow. He did the same with Studs. He let our O Line recruiting drop off a cliff. We had no depth there for a while. Thanks to Grimes righting that ship, next year will be the first in a few where everyone should be playing their natural positions, and not having to be shuffled around.