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re: September 15 2012 makes me still laugh at Tennessee fans

Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:54 pm to
Posted by TOSOV
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:54 pm to
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Dooley could never do that. He was a total fraud.



Ha. Jones the band geek is a god. Dooley the son of an SEC head coach, and actual college ball player a fraud. Ok bud.

What Dooley walked into, and inherited dwarfs what jones did. For half the price too.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 4:31 am to
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We've won 4 out of the last 8 national title's, while you poors can't even win the SEC east in that time frame.


Even by your inflated totals you've forfeited and vacated more games that you have won national titles.

I'd rather have our record than yours.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 4:32 am
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 4:35 am to
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What Dooley walked into, and inherited dwarfs what jones did. For half the price too.


And delivered half the victories.

In 2009 under Kiffin Alabama failed to score a TD on the Vols. Dooley's situation wasn't that dire.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 4:40 am to
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September 15 2012 makes me still laugh at Tennessee fans

Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:17 pm to Korin Can you quote me to that effect? I don't recall that.


I guess not.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:26 am to
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Nor has any Gator coach - or any coach - reeled off a skein of victories like Bob Neyland did at Tennessee - 61-2-5.


snicker. Reliving the glory of the white bread years of the 1930s. I think Neyland was even born in the 1800s.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:31 am to
In other words no one has done better.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:40 am to
No. In other words it's kind of sad that your glory years were 70 to 90 years ago, back when some of the best players couldn't even attend your school.

As previously noted, since integration Tennessee is 5th in winning pct and 6th in number of titles among SEC teams. In other words, a has been.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:50 am to
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Dooley's situation wasn't that dire.


The whiskey is affecting your memory if you don't think wha Dooley walked into wasnt dire. Kiffin depleted the roster, and players he did bring in were mostly cancers.

You need to go back, and review the mess that UT was in during that time.

Do you not see complications with starting the '10 season with no QBs that had been on campus the season prior? Juco transfer Simms, and true freshman Bray were his QBs going into his first fall. Jones had nothing near what Dooley had.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:00 am to
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since integration


This is such a stupid line to set. So football prior to blacks doesnt matter? Football would still be around without integration. Adding blacks changed up the style of play with different physical abilities, but thats it. We'd still be talking about football today, and all other major sports without integration.

I guess everything that happened in America prior to the end of the Civil War doesn't matter either...smh.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:12 am to
Tennessee won 100 games during the '90s. And also won more games than any college between 1924 and 2005.

What you really mean is that when the players were really students and mostly from the area around the school, Coach Neyland was 61-2-5 in his first seven years.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:17 am to
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won more games than any college between 1924 and 2005.


Wrong answer. Even though some ncaa suits decided that Alabama should forfeit or vacate 31 victories on the field, Alabama still won as many. And since integration, during which Tennessee is at best 5th in the SEC, Alabama is still #1.


I-A Wins 1924-2005 (82 years)
(Teams not qualifying for the table are listed at the bottom.)
Rank Team name Winning
Percentage Games
Won Games
Lost Games
Tied Games
Played
1t Alabama 0.72441 630 231 28 889
1t Tennessee 0.72534 630 228 34 892
3 Oklahoma 0.71939 617 230 35 882
4 Notre Dame 0.72491 616 226 25 867
5 Texas 0.69541 609 260 24 893
6 Southern Cal 0.69565 604 253 40 897
7 Nebraska 0.69558 602 257 23 882
8 Michigan 0.72393 600 222 22 844
9 Ohio State 0.73109 593 208 32 833
10 Penn State 0.69754 584 247 22 853


edit: Stassen... LINK

But cling to the past all you want to. It's all you have.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 8:20 am
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:46 am to
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Wrong answer. Even though some ncaa suits decided that Alabama should forfeit or vacate 31 victories on the field, Alabama still won as many.


As many? Exactly as many? Bammer won zero games one year. Tennessee has never failed to win at least 4 games every year since 1925.


Bammer:
1956 SEC 2 7 1
1955 SEC 0 10


Bammer was 3-8 in 2000.

Bammer was 4-9 in 2003.

Tennessee has never lost 8 games in a season.

September 2005:

"Despite each program’s standing among the nation’s elite, Tennessee and Oklahoma have met only twice, with both games taking place at the Orange Bowl in Miami, Fla. The Vols shut out the Sooners 17-0 in the 1939 Orange Bowl (UT’s second bowl game ever).
Then in the 1968 Orange Bowl, Oklahoma posted a 26-24 victory to even the all-time series at 1-1.
Since legendary head coach Gen. Robert R. Neyland coached his first team at Tennessee in 1926, the Vols have won more games (618) than any other school in the country. Oklahoma ranks third nationally with 602 wins since 1926."

LINK

And 31 forfeits and vacated games?

I would rather have our record than your record.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 8:51 am
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:56 am to
2007 Alabama SEC V 7-6 2-6 Vacated first five wins.

2006 Alabama SEC V 6-7 0-7 Vacated all six wins.

2005 Alabama SEC V 10-2 0-2 Vacated all ten wins.

1993 Alabama SEC F 9-3-1 1-12 Forfeited all regular season games.

LINK

Here is the link. Hint: Tennessee isn't on it.

Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:01 am to
Rolled back: Tide below .500 for 2000s


June 16th, 2009 by David Paschall in Sports

Alabama's football team has the talent, the coaching and a favorable schedule to win at least nine games this season.

Anything short of nine wins will give the Crimson Tide a losing decade.

As a result of NCAA sanctions announced last week that requires Alabama to vacate 21 of its 23 victories during the 2005-07 seasons, the Crimson Tide soon will be saddled with a 44-48 record for the 2000s. The university has until June 26 to decide whether it will appeal the ruling, which will change Alabama's 10-2, 6-7 and 7-6 records to 0-2, 0-7 and 2-6.

"It's still better than Vanderbilt," said Roger Shultz, who played center for the Crimson Tide from 1987 to '90.

Framed over the past six seasons, it's not. The Tide would have 24 recognized wins since 2003, which would trail the Commodores by one.

The NCAA deemed seven football players and 15 other student-athletes as "intentional wrongdoers" after they racked up almost $22,000 worth of textbooks through their financial aid and provided them to friends. There were no scholarship reductions, leaving Nick Saban's program loaded for the near future after last season's 12-2 surge, but the vacancies have dented the record books and all but rendered this a lost decade.

Even before last week's verdict, the Crimson Tide had suffered a 3-8 collapse during Mike DuBose's finale in 2000, a 4-9 debacle during Mike Shula's debut in '03 and an inexplicable loss to Louisiana-Monroe in '07. Alabama is 2-7 this decade against Auburn, 2-7 against LSU and 3-5 against Tennessee now that the 6-3 win over the Vols at Bryant-Denny Stadium in 2005 will be vacated."

...Galloway was a team captain for the '02 Tide, who won 10 games but were on probation and banned from playing in a bowl game. Alabama has been on probation more than half the seasons since 1993, when it had to forfeit eight victories and a tie against Tennessee for using an ineligible player (cornerback Antonio Langham)."

LINK

This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 10:03 am
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:11 am to
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I-A Wins 1924-2005 (82 years)


You think you are clever changing the parameters?

"Since legendary head coach Gen. Robert R. Neyland coached his first team at Tennessee in 1926, the Vols have won more games (618)..."

My quote is from September 2005.

Of course that was before Bammer had to vacate 23 games or whatever it was.

This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 10:16 am
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:17 am to
Delete.
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 10:26 am
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