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re: SECr Basketball Power Rankings

Posted on 1/8/14 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 4:44 pm to
KenPom

13 Kentucky
17 Florida
18 Tennessee
36 Arkansas
41 Missouri

RealTimeRPI

14 Florida
20 Kentucky
26 Missouri
40 Tennessee


80 Arkansas

There's no way to reasonably put Arkansas ahead of Tennessee, unless you're just blindly looking at overall records.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 4:45 pm to
Jed is mad. Shocking.
Posted by MizBob
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

KenPom laughs at Mizzou
Who is this KenPom that I should be concerned?
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 4:46 pm to
KenPom has Tennessee SOS at 29 and UF at 50. What are you basing yours off of? The fact that you list Memphis as a quality opponent is pretty telling.
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 4:48 pm
Posted by lwlsu96
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 4:48 pm to
As bad as we played last night, Tennessee is damn good. If they play like they did last night they can beat anyone in the SEC. If they can stay consistent they'll be fighting for a 2-3 spot at least
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 4:51 pm to
quote:



Who is this KenPom that I should be concerned?


It is a CBB ranking system focused on advanced statistics that is utilized by Lunardi, the NCAA committee, literally every single basketball pundit you've ever heard of.
Posted by reedus23
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

Alabama at 11 is moronic, they played one of the toughest schedules in the nation and have been competitive in almost every game.


And I'm sure they'll move up as they win in conference. Right now, though, what are they? .500?
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

The fact that you list Memphis as a quality opponent is pretty telling.


Memphis lost @ #11 Oklahoma State but beat them at a neutral tournament the second time

Memphis beat LSU at a neutral site

Memphis lost to the Gators by 2 points at a neutral site (Jimmy V Classic)

Memphis played 3 Top 25 teams which is more than the Vols did.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 4:58 pm to
Memphis will not finish in the top half of the AAC
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

What are you basing yours off of?


The eyeball test

Imagine swapping the non conference schedules of Florida and Tennessee. Same for swapping Kentucky and Tennessee.

Vols 4 losses are to :
Xavier
UTEP
Wichita State
NC State

Gators 2 losses are to :
@ Wisconsin
@ Connecticut

Cats 3 losses are to:
Michigan State (in Chicago)
Baylor (in Dallas)
North Carolina (in Chapel Hill)

Study all 3 teams and you see one is not like the other 2. Vols may have a high SoS, but it is skewed by not having more teams at the top.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:02 pm to
You think Memphis won't finsh at least fifth in the AAC?

I don't really GAF but looking at those in the conference, they at least finish 5 or better. There's some bad teams in there.
Posted by reedus23
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

Memphis will not finish in the top half of the AAC


Would bet they do.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:10 pm to
4th at best. So you caught me in a bit if hyperbole.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

There's some bad teams in there.


:kige:

quote:

You think Memphis won't finsh at least fifth in the AAC?


I can see them in the Top 3 (Connecticut / Louisville / Memphis)

With only 10 teams you have 4 bottom feeders and 2 TX schools who played terrible OOC schedules. That right there is 6 of 10 teams. That leaves Louisville, Connecticut, Memphis, and Cincinnati so for the Tigers to finish in the top half (5 of 10) seems pretty much assured.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

Who is this KenPom that I should be concerned?


At this point, no one. A couple of games could drastically affect the ratings. It's almost like we'll figure things out as conference play progresses. But that doesn't get the post count up.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

There's no way to reasonably put Arkansas ahead of Tennessee, unless you're just blindly looking at overall records


Why is that?

Tennessee is 3-3 against RPI top 65 teams
Arkansas is 2-2 against RPI top 65 teams
Tennessee's worst loss is RPI 136 UTEP
Arkansas' worst loss is RPI 55 Cal

Arkansas has a better record than Tennessee with no bad losses.
Posted by WildcatMike
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:27 pm to
Lol, what? KenPom takes in consideration of offensive and defensive efficiency stats up till this point. Past champions besides UConn were in the top 20'in both and ranked high in KenPom. KenPom has let it be known, he is not sold on Mizzou.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:30 pm to
Lundardi

Vols - in
Arkansas - nowhere to be found
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:32 pm to
So, you can't argue facts I suppose.

Every bracket I've seen so far has Arkansas in

Arkansas is in dumbass

He has Tennessee in a play in game.

Lol at ur fail
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 5:36 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

KenPom has let it be known, he is not sold on Mizzou.


I think this is what Slive was aiming for with better non conference scheduling. They lost their rival game to Illinois in Saint Louis and beat UCLA in Columbia. Hard to make more accurate predictions with so few data points.
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