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re: SEC schools ranked by academics 2024

Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:18 am to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:18 am to
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If your company is passing on a more qualified candidate to hire someone from a specific school


That's not what's happening at all.

What does happen is that the Aggie Network provides insight into hidden jobs and tend to influence who gets past the application process and into the interview.

At that point, a bad fit is still a bad fit.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:27 am to
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so you claim Auburn lies about this?


I think it’s largely a clever but misleading way to present information that omits a few important pieces of information - much like your post does.

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The university’s early action application deadline was Feb. 1, and the 2024 admissions cycle will conclude with a regular decision release in early March.


This all centers around the Early Action period, which admits the most highly qualified candidates early, while deferring the rest of the decisions until the traditional spring deadline.

With the common application now in place, and everyone experiencing a dramatic increase in the number of applications, the emphasis on Early Action numbers is unnecessary, as admission rates have dropped as a whole for everyone.

However, Auburn has pivoted, two years in a row now, to reporting only Early Action numbers. It’s clearly a deliberate PR move and it’s worked. A school with a historical average of 80% acceptance rate has now convinced the nation that they’re difficult to get into.
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 11:29 am
Posted by Park duck
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Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:30 am to
90% of you idiots didn't even attend an SEC school to begin with.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
19192 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:33 am to
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In my experience, the only time where your degree is from matters is for entry level positions,


From what I've seen...where your degree is from matters for either entry level positions for most jobs or for the highest level positions in scientific research.

If I'm a director looking for a Physicist to work on developing a Neutrino Measurement Apparatus...I'm going to look at someone with a PhD from Stanford, Cal Tech, Harvard, or Cornell before someone from Southern Miss or Delaware State.


Also...school rankings are fine...but it is the program rankings that really matter for what you are studying. Let's take Physics (since I mentioned it above)...here are the SEC program rankings for graduate Physics Programs:

13. Texas
38. Vanderbilt (t)
38. Florida (t)
47. aTm
55. Tennessee
73. LSU
78. Oklahoma
89. Georgia (t)
89. Kentucky (t)
105. Auburn (t)
105. MIZZOU (t)
113. USCe (t)
113. Bama (t)
136. Arkansas
146. Ole Miss (t)
146. MSU (t)

US News Top Graduate Schools - Physics Rankings
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 11:43 am
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
1466 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:35 am to
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An under the radar one we're getting a lot of good hires out of is Belmont. On paper, you wouldn't think a Church of Christ Liberal Arts college would be producing absolute rock stars for Engineers, but they are.


Blasphemy!!

Belmont is NOT a Church of Christ school.

signed...

Lipscomb. U.

Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68545 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:37 am to
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The acceptance rate at ole miss, Kentucky and auburn seem off Florida has really gotten good in the last 30 years
Ole Miss has a frick ton of out of state students that apply and get money to attend there. The minimum requirements are set by the state of Mississippi and not the university. Mississippi State has the same exact entrance requirements.

The only logical conclusion I can come to there’s being only 80% is they get way more in state applicants and they don’t meet the minimum requirements
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
841 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:47 am to
Most rankings for practically everything are subjective bullshite and shouldn’t be taken seriously anyways.

Honestly, unless you went to some little shite arse tech or community college, I really don’t care what college you went to outside of the opportunity to shite talk about sports. Outside of hard sciences, most of these schools aren’t much more than whistling farts in the wind anyways.
Posted by charliethehun
Member since Jul 2021
1047 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:48 am to
Texas has 60 degree programs ranked in the Top 10, only behind Michigan, Cal & Stanford for the most

Texas aTm is 2nd in Texas with 11 degree programs ranked in the Top 10
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:48 am to
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Blasphemy!!

Belmont is NOT a Church of Christ school.

signed...

Lipscomb. U.
My bad. Knew they were religious affiliated and got them confused with Lipscomb.

Lipscomb is another school that we've a few great hires out of. All of them not originally from TN.
Posted by lsudave1
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Member since Jan 2005
7377 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:50 am to
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Where winning or losing a women's basketball national championship are sacred


Considering the fact that winning the WNCAAT is the only championship you lot have won since the start of WWII it is not surprising that you feel that way!
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11239 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:50 am to
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If I'm a director looking for a Physicist to work on developing a Neutrino Measurement Apparatus...I'm going to look at someone with a PhD from Stanford, Cal Tech, Harvard, or Cornell before someone from Southern Miss or Delaware State.

That level of hiring is way above me, but I'd be looking at published academic articles and studies.

Southern Miss has a great polymer engineering program. Snatched a few kids out of there to do some analysis, reconstruction, and surrogate testing. Kinda surprised that Southern Miss got into that considering Mississippi State's emphasis on engineering.
Posted by Wanruningchen
Member since Jan 2024
183 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:12 pm to
Here is a study from the most privileged journal investigating the top 300 universities from four international rankings, the Times Higher Education World University Ranking (THE), the QS World University Rankings (QS) the ShanghaiRanking-Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU) and the U.S.News Best Global Universities Ranking (USNews).

LINK
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5596 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:30 pm to
Yep. And Alumni network matters for ALL schools. From Ivy leagues to state schools.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
1382 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:32 pm to
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4. A&M 65,598 UE, 63% AR




The only thing required for acceptance to A&M
Posted by Aggie Class of 2026
Member since Mar 2024
580 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:38 pm to
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The only thing required for acceptance to A&M


The strong smell of curry is messing things up...

What did you say?
Posted by AUreo
Member since Jul 2021
2049 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:40 pm to
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However, Auburn has pivoted, two years in a row now, to reporting only Early Action numbers. It’s clearly a deliberate PR move and it’s worked. A school with a historical average of 80% acceptance rate has now convinced the nation that they’re difficult to get into.


You are clueless. Auburn regularly reports final admission results. I posted these numbers several times but you always ignore my posts for a reason.

Btw, this phenomenon happened to other schools in the past. The main reason is the introduction of the common app and Auburn just joined recently.
You can even find research papers on this. It’s simple math: Common App leads to more applications which leads to lower acceptance rates.

The Rise of Common App and the Fall of Acceptance Rates:

LINK /

This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 12:41 pm
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5596 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:42 pm to
As you probably already know, overall acceptance rate doesn’t correlate to the acceptance rate of getting into a specific major or undergrad program. It’s not that useful of a metric.

Engineering and Business programs at A&M aren’t as easy as having a pulse. It’s much more competitive.

On the flip side, your chances of getting into Vandy or an IVY league school are much higher than their published acceptance rate if you pick some obscure major that has much fewer applicants and is looking to fill seats.
Posted by charliethehun
Member since Jul 2021
1047 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:45 pm to
Texas aTm is now a diploma mill
Posted by Legionfield
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2590 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:46 pm to
Why do people get so hung up on this? This isn’t the Ivy League. They “don’t come here to play school!” Who cares? At the end of the day all the rant cares about is…. “Did we win the game?”…. except for maybe Vanderbilt.
Posted by beeko
Bama
Member since Oct 2018
139 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:48 pm to
I routinely look at resumes and hire folks and with the unemployment rate in North Alabama <2% I don't care where they went to school even if they got a degree from the barn. I am looking for people that will show up on time and work.
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