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SEC reaction to Wash - Oregon to Big 10

Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:08 pm
Posted by NebraskaExPat
Member since Dec 2020
252 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:08 pm
I know the SEC has said they are happy with the 16 team setup. Will the Big 10 adding Oregon and Washington put any pressure on the SEC to reconsider?

I'm only curious. I don't have a preference either way.
Posted by WMTigerFAN
Ouachita
Member since Feb 2005
4476 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:12 pm to
I think they’ll respond and will go after the next cluster of teams on their wish list-probably would include FSU and Clemson. Maybe NC State , not sure who else fits that profile. VA Tech ?
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8639 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:12 pm to
SEC doesn't let B1G force them to do anything
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:20 pm to
Expanding would only water down the SEC. It is stupid to allow the conference to keep getting bigger...hell 12 teams is too much IMO
Posted by bah7tea
Member since May 2015
97 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:21 pm to
No need now. But probably yes if BIG keeps going.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
1203 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:21 pm to
Why does the SEC have to react?
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17193 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:21 pm to
No point in expanding unless new teams add to the revenue pie.
Posted by JeffLebowski
Member since Feb 2015
1797 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:24 pm to
B1G is overplaying their hand and going to end up busting. Eventually this expansion shite will equate to diminishing returns.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5932 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:27 pm to
The SEC will make geographically coherent expansion to keep up with the Joneses. We know FSU wants out, I think that is the smoke on where SEC goes.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5368 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:32 pm to
BIG 10 has plenty of money to play with right now, and their new additions don't get a full share. They are playing the long game. Their next media deal will be massive.

The SEC can't expand. ESPN owns SEC and ACC. They aren't going to pay $60 million for FSU in the SEC when they already own it for $30 million. And that goes for Clemson and everyone else in the ACC.
Posted by ForeverGator
Elite 8 - 2020 Worst SECRant Poster
Member since Nov 2012
13010 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:35 pm to
We'd only take the FSU's (to my dismay) and Clemson's of the world. The top tiers of a conference. Otherwise, no, we're not going to expand just to expand.

Looking at the Big 10 now, there are several tiers as far as value:

1st tier
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
USC

2nd tier
Wisconsin
Oregon
UCLA
Nebraska

3rd tier
Purdue
Minnesota
Indiana
Illinois
Northwestern
Washington
Maryland
Iowa
Michigan State

4th tier
Rutgers

The ACC looks like this:

1st tier
FSU
Clemson

2nd tier
Miami
UNC
Duke

3rd tier
NC State
Duke
Virginia
Virginia Tech

4th tier
Pitt
Louisville
Wake Forest
Boston College
Georgia Tech


Definitely some diminishing returns if we choose to expand with ACC teams.
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
6751 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:36 pm to
But what if FSU finds 7 partners and nukes the ACC?
Posted by Iron Balls McGinty
Member since Jul 2015
311 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by PineyWoodsHog
Texas
Member since Sep 2021
1543 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

SEC doesn't let B1G force them to do anything


Sankey is proactive, not reactive. And while I might not agree with everything he does, he is THE best commission going today and it's not even close. He is head and shoulders above any of the others and they all know it.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62806 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:57 pm to
The SEC will react.
You may think not, they're too good, too.
But, I think they will.

They'll start with ACC teams
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1443 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

I know the SEC has said they are happy with the 16 team setup. Will the Big 10 adding Oregon and Washington put any pressure on the SEC to reconsider?


I don't think so. Any schools we'd want, presuming we'd want any, would be in the ACC where the legal issues are a lot thornier.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5368 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:01 pm to
Let's say that's an option. Yes FSU and Clemson find a home. But can anyone else guarantee that the other schools get a media deal better than what they are getting now? What network (ESPN would be off the table), would pay for an ACC leftover conference minus FSU and Clemson? 3 maybe 4 teams would vote to leave, but I don't think they get 7.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42710 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:02 pm to
I'm sure ESPN would cut a deal and let FSU and Clemson or others out of their grant of rights to join SEC, the league they have a long term deal with.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65130 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:03 pm to
quote:




This all started back in the summer of 2010 when Texas attempted to bring a half dozen schools with them to the Pac-12. Nebraska and Colorado said "see ya" after that debacle and A&M followed a year later.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42710 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:06 pm to
This, plus when Texas started the Longhorn Network and didn't include anyone from their conference in their deal despite needing teams like A&M and Oklahoma to sustain their own network
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