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re: SEC Officials are freaking terrible

Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:36 am to
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:36 am to
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Hurts wasn't targeting he wasn't defenseless and the hit wasn't initiated with the crown of the helmet. There are two rules: one protects defenseless players; one protects all players. Neither occurred.


Now if the refs were truly for Bama they would have still thrown a flag for that play now wouldn't they? Especially considering that play led to Bama being down by 3 TDs.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:36 am to
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On the strange unnecessary roughness call.. it probably shouldn't have been flagged at all.
They aren't going to let you hit someone like that 40 yards behind the play.
Posted by Under_Oath
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:37 am to
Literally no calls went in Bama's favor. All calls favorited Ole Miss. Who blocked in the back on the punt return and bogus roughing the passer and pass interference on Bama.
Posted by Under_Oath
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:38 am to
He was actually trying to catch him after he ran into him. He fell on top of him didn't hit him at all lol.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:41 am to
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Literally no calls went in Bama's favor. All calls favorited Ole Miss


Hurts fumble reversal was not in Bama's favor?? It was the right call but the call was a reversal and therefore in Bama's favor and that was a big one...
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:43 am to
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Are you shitting me? The first point of contact was the crown of the defender's helmet to the facemask


There is an obvious and distinct difference between leading with the crown (or initiating contact with the crown) and the crown touching the facemask. Reality is that the hit was damn near perfect and the defenders face was put in the QBs chest.

Not an illegal hit.
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This post was edited on 9/18/16 at 10:48 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:48 am to
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There is an obvious and distinct difference between leading with the crown (or initiating contact with the crown) and the crown touching the facemask. Reality is that the hit was damn near perfect and the defenders face was put in the QBs chest.
It would have been a perfect hit if it was 4 inches lower, but it wasn't. That is a penalty at least 9/10 times.
Posted by UFFan
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:49 am to
Every fan considers their conference's officials terrible.

PAC officials are supposed to be the worst.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:49 am to
Yeah, that picture clearly shows that he nailed the head first. Clear penalty.
Posted by UFFan
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:50 am to
An L5U fan being a big baby about officiating.

Something new and different.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:55 am to
That Plains are Burning again and TutHill is ranting about refs at 2 am? Tut should be cranking a meeting with his old ATPB crew.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:58 am to
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Not an illegal hit.
LINK


The dude lowered his helmet and lead with the crown of his head. Textbook.

LINK
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:03 am to
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It would have been a perfect hit if it was 4 inches lower, but it wasn't. That is a penalty at least 9/10 times


No. Hurts was not a defenseless player and contact was not initiated with the crown of the helmet. See 9-1-3 and 9-1-4 in the rulebook.

The rule is split into two:
1) Targeting and making Forcible Contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless player
2) Targeting and making Forcible contact with the crown of the helmet
This post was edited on 9/18/16 at 11:04 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:04 am to
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2) Targeting and making Forcible contact with the crown of the helmet


How are you watching these clips and still arguing contact wasn't initiated with the crown of the dude's helmet?

LINK
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:05 am to
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contact was not initiated with the crown of the helmet
You keep saying that, but you are still 100% wrong. I'm not even saying it was targeting, but it's still a 15 yard penalty for hitting the QB in the head.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:07 am to
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The dude lowered his helmet and lead with the crown of his head. Textbook.



Defender initiated contact with the front portion of his helmet and not the crown. Makes it legal.

The rule is to prevent hits like this. Facemask down = flag. Otherwise = no flag
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This post was edited on 9/18/16 at 11:09 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:08 am to
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You keep saying that, but you are still 100% wrong. I'm not even saying it was targeting, but it's still a 15 yard penalty for hitting the QB in the head


There is no penalty for hitting a QB in the head unless he is defenseless or contact is initiated with the crown of the helmet.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:08 am to
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Defender initiated contact with the front portion of his helmet and not the crown. Makes it legal.
Since when is the crown not the very top of the helmet? Because that's where the contact initiated.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:08 am to
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or contact is initiated with the crown of the helmet.
And that's what happened.

Come on, you're better than this.
This post was edited on 9/18/16 at 11:09 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:10 am to
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And that's what happened.

Come on, you're better than this


Not even close. Called correctly on the field. Player will be suspended for the next game (all hits like this are reviewed) if you are correct.

I guess we will see in a few days eh?
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