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re: SEC Leads Nation in FBS Attendance (See UAB numbers)
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:15 pm to AlaTiger
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:15 pm to AlaTiger
You are an idiot and look like a complete fool for posting UAB numbers.
Most of those were give-aways and everyone around here knows it. There was no actual REVENUE gained.
Do you understand finance?
Most of those were give-aways and everyone around here knows it. There was no actual REVENUE gained.
Do you understand finance?
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:16 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Explain why Watts did not reach out to ANY supporters of the program to attempt to secure commitments.
If I had to guess, it was because they wanted the supporters to raise money for the medical school/hospitals, not for a football program nobody cared about.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:17 pm to bobsacamano
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If I had to guess, it was because they wanted the supporters to raise money for the medical school/hospitals, not for a football program nobody cared about.
Yay random opinions
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:21 pm to Spread
12 pages of Gumps defending and everyone else accusing
It's UAB football, nobody will miss it.
Now, we need them to go after Auburn
It's UAB football, nobody will miss it.
Now, we need them to go after Auburn
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:22 pm to bobsacamano
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Explain why Watts did not reach out to ANY supporters of the program to attempt to secure commitments.
Explain why the so-called supporters didn't actually SUPPORT the program for 20 years? I did but most did not show up, and when they did, they did it without their wallets and pocketbooks. It was only because it was free.
I promised myself that I'd stop posting on this subject. I have went there, have taught there, know a lot of people there now, and the only people who cared about this program were a handful (a couple of hundred, and the small band) of students, people in the city who got freebies, and people who hated the University of Alabama. NO ONE CARED UNITL IT WAS GONE!!!! PERIOD!!
This is such a stupid topic and most of you know it!
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:23 pm to higgs_boson
Let's take a rational look at attendance numbers for 2014. And to start that, preface it with this prediction in 2013 from the AD:
"Because UAB's average announced attendance was 15,271 in 2012, the Blazers are not impacted by the NCAA requirement this year. Mackin said he is not concerned about meeting the 15,000 average in 2014.
"Obviously, we would want more fans, and we never have had a problem meeting that 15,000 requirement by the NCAA," he said. "The reason I'm not concerned is next year we have a very good home schedule. We have Troy the first game of the year. They travel. And our third game of the year will be against Alabama A&M, and they have very good crowds that follow them. Next year bodes well for scheduling."
8/30 Troy: 27,133. One of those predicted "bumps". A nice gate in even years. But in odd years where you have a home opener with, for example, Northwestern State? 8,723.
9/13 Alabama A&M: 29,604. The other predicted "bump". This is a team that combines with Alabama State to draw over 60,000 to Legion Field every year. Any bump in ticket revenue is mitigated by whatever fee UAB had to pay AA&M, since this was not part of a home-and-home.
9/27 FIU: 16,133.
10/11 North Texas: 20,365
11/8 La. Tech. 9,457. That's right. The 5-4 Blazers, playing to get bowl eligible for the first time in ten years, drew less than 10,000.
11/22 Marshall. 28,355. Obviously a good crowd. Are they there to support UAB football or to see one of only two undefeated teams in the country? Or both? Who knows?
I think it's pretty obvious that, without home games with Troy, AA&M, and Marshall, attendance would not have been nearly as high in 2015.
The Blazers did manage to get bowl eligible on the last game of the season. The sadly ironic thing is that, had they gone to a bowl, it may have meant as high as another $1,000,000 loss to the program, due to ticket guarantees.
"Because UAB's average announced attendance was 15,271 in 2012, the Blazers are not impacted by the NCAA requirement this year. Mackin said he is not concerned about meeting the 15,000 average in 2014.
"Obviously, we would want more fans, and we never have had a problem meeting that 15,000 requirement by the NCAA," he said. "The reason I'm not concerned is next year we have a very good home schedule. We have Troy the first game of the year. They travel. And our third game of the year will be against Alabama A&M, and they have very good crowds that follow them. Next year bodes well for scheduling."
8/30 Troy: 27,133. One of those predicted "bumps". A nice gate in even years. But in odd years where you have a home opener with, for example, Northwestern State? 8,723.
9/13 Alabama A&M: 29,604. The other predicted "bump". This is a team that combines with Alabama State to draw over 60,000 to Legion Field every year. Any bump in ticket revenue is mitigated by whatever fee UAB had to pay AA&M, since this was not part of a home-and-home.
9/27 FIU: 16,133.
10/11 North Texas: 20,365
11/8 La. Tech. 9,457. That's right. The 5-4 Blazers, playing to get bowl eligible for the first time in ten years, drew less than 10,000.
11/22 Marshall. 28,355. Obviously a good crowd. Are they there to support UAB football or to see one of only two undefeated teams in the country? Or both? Who knows?
I think it's pretty obvious that, without home games with Troy, AA&M, and Marshall, attendance would not have been nearly as high in 2015.
The Blazers did manage to get bowl eligible on the last game of the season. The sadly ironic thing is that, had they gone to a bowl, it may have meant as high as another $1,000,000 loss to the program, due to ticket guarantees.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:24 pm to lsusteve1
Wrong. Tiger in Miami will miss it.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:24 pm to StopRobot
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Want to know what would have happened had UAB wasted $60 million on that stadium...look at Tulane
Exactly three months after opening $80 million Yulman Stadium amid overwhelming fanfare, pomp and circumstance, Tulane’s first season season of on-campus football in almost 40 years came to a quiet end on Saturday night in front of a mostly empty stadium, which won’t see the Green Wave again until spring practice.
Pretty good article. It did not really seem to attack building the stadium, but lamented the poor season. I read a few more suggested links from there and it said that when they played in the Dome, the attendance would often drop to 3k. The average for this season still seems significantly higher.
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And so far, at least, the response has felt right: The maiden voyage against Georgia Tech is sold out, according to athletic department spokesman Roger Dunaway, making this the first sellout for Tulane football since the program abandoned Tulane Stadium (capacity: 81,000) in the early ’70s. Single-game tickets for the opener went on sale on August 15 and sold out in 14 minutes. Students have claimed 4,800 tickets, per Dunaway, and if they all show Saturday it will mark the most students at a Green Wave game in more than 40 years. The stadium is the most positive development for the long-term potential of Tulane football in those students’ lifetimes, or in the lifetime of just about anyone who can remember having once been a student.
Again though winning is a key.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:25 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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This is what pisses me off. If your life depended on being right and the question was, was shutting down UAB football primarily motivated by money, you know your answer would be no.
On the contrary, I've stated all along it's about the money - the money that the UAB football program consistently loses, to be exact.
Again - zero facts to support your argument. None. Nada. Zilch. Because you have none.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:25 pm to BamaGradinTn
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11/22 Marshall. 28,355. Obviously a good crowd. Are they there to support UAB football or to see one of only two undefeated teams in the country? Or both? Who knows?
My 8-year old son came home from school with 24 passes to get into this game for free. For free!!
The numbers were all false and everyone knows it.
God, this is so stupid a subject.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:27 pm to blzr
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Yay random opinions
If that's the end result, then I say the end of UAB football was a good thing. If these guys are more willing to donate $5m to a football program with 21k fans instead of to hospital, then that's pretty sad on their part.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:27 pm to AlaTiger
You fricking Auburn fa....oh wait nm
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:28 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Tiger n Miami AU83
Damn, I'm about as big of an Auburn fan as their is, and Ive got to say, this dude needs to relax.
You come across as a huge tool dude.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:28 pm to Bham4Tide
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My 8-year old son came home from school with 24 passes to get into this game for free. For free!!
You should really stop saying for free, you know that is not factually correct. The city bought and gave away those tickets. From a business perspective a sold ticket is just that. What you do with it after the purchase does not change the fact it was purchased.
You are better than that.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:28 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Explain why Watts did not reach out to ANY supporters of the program to attempt to secure commitments.
They had $2,000,000 in donations for this year, so someone sure has hell has been reaching out to somebody.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:29 pm to higgs_boson
Seen you comment on this in almost every thread. In your perfect world, what happens to UAB and/or UAB football?
You claimed people aren't that worried about football, but the direction this is heading with decisions being made without representation. Are people afraid the university is heading in a bad direction or what?
TNM claims its all about football. But you present a more coherent and sane argument than he ever has so Id rather hear from you or others.
Hanging up and listening.
You claimed people aren't that worried about football, but the direction this is heading with decisions being made without representation. Are people afraid the university is heading in a bad direction or what?
TNM claims its all about football. But you present a more coherent and sane argument than he ever has so Id rather hear from you or others.
Hanging up and listening.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:30 pm to BamaGradinTn
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They had $2,000,000 in donations for this year, so someone sure has hell has been reaching out to somebody.
A bigger issue lost in all of this is that boosters have lost confidence in President Watts, that will take a toll on further donations. Again, I think the football matter is decided, but the fallout is not done.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:31 pm to higgs_boson
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The city bought and gave away those tickets.
Why should the city subsidize a failing program? How long would they have been willing to continue doing so?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:33 pm to WillHarsha
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Damn, I'm about as big of an Auburn fan as their is, and Ive got to say, this dude needs to relax. You come across as a huge tool dude.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:34 pm to higgs_boson
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higgs_boson
You are a good poster and I respect you. We just disagree.
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However, I am willing to bet you Troy fans are also either AU/UA fans. The same is definitely true for HBCU fans. I am willing to bet it is true for the other Alabama Colleges with football programs.
Yes, but Troy and Jax State have, and had, a legitimate fan base that supports the football program regardless of allegiances to other programs. There are real JSU fans and real Troy fans who buy their merchandise and attend the games.
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I think the state is big enough to support a C-USA team in the largest city without hurting either of the big ones.
I agree, if there had been fan support for the program. But there was never any legitimate fan support for UAB football like there has been for JSU and Troy, even though UAB played in the state's largest city.
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Again, the point is really moot, we will never know if boosters/community support would have rallied.
The boosters and community had to have known for years that UAB football was on its last legs, but never rallied then. Why would you expect them to rally now?
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