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Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:56 pm
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:56 pm
Stability. In a word, this is probably the best word to describe the OPPOSITE of what is going on in the SEC world right now. Here's my breakdown, what do y'all think?

In terms of stability:

1. Alabama is definitely not going anywhere but up for an unforeseeable amount of time in the distance... 3 years, 5 years etc... STABLE. If Saban is at the helm, things will be fine. And there is no reason to believe he'll go anywhere else any time soon, if ever.

2. Florida. They come in at #2 in-spite of losing Tebow after this year. As long as Meyer is there, Florida will continue to be a stable powerhouse. There is SOME legitimate concern he might leave soon, but until there's substantial rumblings, it's all hearsay. Florida in a unique position due to Meyer's status... but can't be in an upward trend because they're arguably the best program in the country.. certainly top 5 by any standard you could put to them. And even if Meyer leaves, UF will have no issue attracting top tier coaches to replace him.

3. ARKANSAS. I see Arkansas sticking with this Petrino guy for a while. Likewise, I see Petrino sticking with Arkansas. He's a confident and competent coach that knows good and well that he and Saban are the best two coaches in the western division. They've completed a lot by showing Auburn's admin they screwed up in not hiring him when they had a shot. Arkansas in an ultimately upward trend.

4. LSU. I put LSU in 4th place because I really don't believe in Miles' product, and I think the LSU fanbase is ravenous for championships... i believe they will force him out.. but he'll have winning seasons there because he's able to recruit well. I think LSU is in a downward trend because of Miles.

5. Auburn. They're obviously excelling. They WILL lose their OC eventually, probably not this year... but sooner than later, and then they're gonna side step or take a step back. Ultimately Auburn is in a sideways trend... no way to see how it's gonna play out with the coaching staff.

6. UGA. KEEP RICHT... keep him motivated, and you'll get back to being consistent. If not, then it could get rough for a bit while you re-establish your program under a new coach.

7. Ole Miss. You'll be consistent alright, consistently middle tier... but not much has changed for Ole Miss. Keep Nutt, you might get one out of 4 good seasons with him.

8. USC... If Spurrier has a good 2nd half of the season, he'll probably stay. You're looking good right now. Good luck, but no matter how you look at it, he's old and not gonna last that much longer. Which puts y'all in an ultimately downward trend... you'll have to re-staff soonish.

No offense at all to MSU, Kentucky, or Vandy for exclusion. I also feel like LSU's situation could end up going SUPER south SUPER fast considering the meltdown manic crowd they have. people think Bama fans are bad about it... i really think the negatigers are gonna crumble that system as long as Miles proves to NOT be a true championship caliber coach. so their position on this chart could be on the bottom too. just putting them at #4 because of what i think WILL happen.

it's late-ish, i'm tired and sick.. but i thought i might get some feedback. i tried to keep each team's thing as short as possible, so i left out an absolutely huge amount of probably crucial details to discuss each team. let's just build on it instead of flame me for seeming ignorant etc..
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 10:35 am
Posted by Jhag
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:59 pm to
I agree with Bama at 1
Arkansas at 3 is a bit of a push
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28634 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

I agree with Bama at 1
Arkansas at 3 is a bit of a push


i'd have auburn higher really .. but i think the jury is still WAY out on Chizik himself. if he finds a way to replace the entire offensive program that Malzahn's putting in when Malzahn leaves, then i'll believe in Chizik.

btw, i never thought Chizik would put ANY sort of semblance of success on the field for y'all. major kudos.
Posted by Jhag
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:02 pm to
I would have UGA ahead of us...IMO

1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. LSU
4. UGA
5. AUBURN
6. Arky
7. UT
8. OM
9 a msu 9b usce
....who cares bout the rest
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:03 pm to
LSU is just as much of a player as UF and Bama right now. LSU just has beyond idiotic fans. Things are not perfect, but LSU is not falling a part like everyone else wishes would happen.

LSU has the current #2 recruiting classes with Lache and Trovon as huge leans.
This post was edited on 10/12/09 at 10:05 pm
Posted by Jhag
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

LSU is just as much of a player as UF and Bama right now.
No.
quote:

Things are perfect
No

How are things perfect
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:06 pm to
I accidently left out not and I fixed it.

LSU has one loss and controls it's own destiny. They have atleast as much talent as UF and Bama also.
Posted by Adiossuck
South Carolina Fan
Member since Jan 2007
3768 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:07 pm to
quote:


In terms of stability:

1. Alabama is definitely not going anywhere but up for an unforeseeable amount of time in the distance... 3 years, 5 years etc... STABLE. If Saban is at the helm, things will be fine. And there is no reason to believe he'll go anywhere else any time soon, if ever.


I don't think you could ever put 'Bama at 1 in terms of stability, God knows it'll only take 1 bad season at 'Bama and the Tide fans will be calling for Saban's head. Not to mention Saban does have a reputation of bolting out of nowhere. No I do not believe he will or is thinking or planning to do so anytime in the near future, but he has had the history of doing so.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28634 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

lsutiger2486


is my #4 LSU thing too low for you? i thought i did a really good job to give them respect considering what seems to be a tremendous lack of ... whatever you wanna call it.

fwiw... i don't know anyone that cares what other school's teams are doing. ULTIMATELY i wouldn't love football the way i do if the SEC was a weak conference. it's nice to see power shifts constantly though... that way no one gets too far ahead of the rest. unless of course the power goes away from Bama ;)
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28634 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

God knows it'll only take 1 bad season at 'Bama and the Tide fans will be calling for Saban's head


this is very, very misguided belief on the grounds that we -love- football... we love being champions of football. we know we have a championship coach because we know football. we have a way of idolizing our coaches btw... i don't know if you've heard anything about the Bear... but look him up, his name is PAUL "Bear" Bryant. we are fairly fond of his memory.

but times have changed. it's been 2 decades. we need to see some more championships.. we got the right guy.

if Saban keeps playing his cards as he has, we will never want to let him go.
This post was edited on 10/12/09 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:09 pm to
m2pro, I think you are right on with this but you probably have Ole Miss a little high as long as Nutt is there.
Posted by Jhag
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Member since Mar 2009
4342 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:10 pm to
Saban isnt going anywhere
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:13 pm to
Good points. Saban has never been consistent. I'm actually surprised at how good Bama is this year.

Saban never had back-to-back double digit win seasons at LSU or Michigan St.
Posted by Adiossuck
South Carolina Fan
Member since Jan 2007
3768 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:13 pm to
quote:


this is very, very misguided belief.


Say 'Bama suddenly starts to collapse this season and has some bad losses and goes to a meh bowl. Or finishes great this season as expected but somehow go from being into the SECCG to a 5-7 team the next (hey it happend to UT).. what do you think the 'Bama fans reaction would be towards Saban?

*Im asking this as a serious question, not a shite talking thats what i predict will happen type thing.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28634 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:15 pm to
quote:


*Im asking this as a serious question, not a shite talking thats what i predict will happen type thing.



i believe you. and my answer to your question is what i already stated. we know football, we know good coaches. i promise. if it's Saban's fault, we'll call him out if we had to and wait for him to correct it. but if we had a bad season, and it wasn't within his control, we wouldn't blame him.

we wouldn't be quick to judge him or call him out even if he DID make some mistakes unless they were pretty damn big. we know we have a winner. why mess with it? even the Bear has some bad years.
This post was edited on 10/12/09 at 10:17 pm
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85828 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

m2pro


All that and no mention of Sabear

Im impressed
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28634 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

All that and no mention of Sabear

Im impressed



i don't know what you mean by this... but, i'll be sure to bring up that thread you started under your profile "memphis jerk" if u want.
Posted by NorthernGamecock
MO
Member since Nov 2008
81 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:23 pm to
With the recruiting classes he's pulled in lately, I don't think Spurrier is anxious to get out of dodge yet on his own accord. Those classes have too much promise. Lot's of young talent there.

This is all pending if we show up in the 2nd half of the season though.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85828 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

i don't know what you mean by this


Look at how many Saban threads have been started the past 2 days.

It was more of a complement than a flame.

quote:

but, i'll be sure to bring up that thread you started under your profile "memphis jerk" if u want




Posted by BT4LSU
Could be Anywhere, at Anytime
Member since Feb 2005
3278 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:41 pm to
I also feel like LSU's situation could end up going SUPER south SUPER fast considering the meltdown manic crowd they have. people think Bama fans are bad about it... i really think the negatigers are gonna crumble that system as long as Miles proves to NOT be a true championship caliber coach. so their position on this chart could be on the bottom too.

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