re: SEC Football Programs ranked by total number of wins

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thank you. no one is saying the past 16 years haven't been the best in LSU history. It is, and that's undeniable. I don't know why that seems to become a counter-argument every time this is brought up like is something LSU fans deny

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I actually feel like LSU folks undersell their history more than oversell it.

That was a really good program stuck in the shadow of Bryant (like a few other really good SEC programs) that then had a simultaneous rough patch when Alabama fell and the league opened up. I guess maybe the fact that LSU wasn't taking advantage in the 80's and 90's like Florida/Tennessee/Auburn/Georgia were is why people don't think of them. LSU's best periods were at the same time that Alabama was having great periods, and because of that they didn't win a ton of hardware. If those periods had been in the 80's and 90's their trophy chest would look a lot different.

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But I wanted to debate LF7 vs. Chub

I have a very good stat that involves YPC

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Let me go get a 5 hour energy.

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Let me go get a 5 hour energy.

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Better grab two, going for 30 pages easy

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I actually feel like LSU folks undersell their history more than oversell it.

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Meh.

Most LSU fans I know will say LSU is a historically good program, not elite, just good. You have a few who will say it's mediocre, but you also have a few who will say it's top 5.

There is a pretty solid grasp on the relevance overall though.

To be fair, the worst offender of the Johnny-Come-Lately phenomenon is fricking FLORIDA.

Motherfrickers did exactly JACK shite until 1990. Prior to that, Florida was a monument of mediocrity.

LSU has had periods of sustained success throughout its football history. We only remember what happened just before 2000, when LSU football was pretty shitty.

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1991 - 2000:
3 Florida
6 Tennessee
12 Alabama
24 Georgia
25 Texas A&M
28 Auburn
40 Mississippi St
42 Louisiana St.*
45 Mississippi

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The same can be said for A&M football. The haters love to selectively remember A&M football from 1946 - 1973**, skip over 1985 - 1999, and go straight to 2000 - 2010.










On a broader scale, to the haters, A&M's entire existence is a small, all-male, military ag school where the poor, rural farm hands saved every penny to send junior to school.

Baylor and the fricking longhorns hate Aggy so much right now because their 1950's version of A&M is so far from the truth, but many remain in denial. Those not in denial think we have dared to presume to rise above our lowly station. It's never going back to the good old days.







** 1946 - 1973 was a terrible stretch, but had high points as well.

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That was a really good program stuck in the shadow of Bryant (like a few other really good SEC programs) that then had a simultaneous rough patch when Alabama fell and the league opened up. I guess maybe the fact that LSU wasn't taking advantage in the 80's and 90's like Florida/Tennessee/Auburn/Georgia were is why people don't think of them. LSU's best periods were at the same time that Alabama was having great periods, and because of that they didn't win a ton of hardware. If those periods had been in the 80's and 90's their trophy chest would look a lot different.

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The big problem was when Arnsparger had built up a great team and then left abruptly to take the AD job at Florida, they hired a boob in Mike Archer. Archer had early success coaching Arnsparger's players but fell off pretty quickly. LSu then added insult to injury making a laughable hire in Curly Hallman (most recently fired from a high school job in South Carolina). That sunk the program. People want to shite on Dinardo a lot, but he did a fantastic job in getting talent back to Baton Rouge. His downfall was hiring, and then not firing his DC Lou Tepper, but the situation Saban entered was not as bad as the record would indicate the year prior. There was a lot of NFL talent on that team. But what Saban was able to do for LSU is also undeniable. He rejuvenated the football program and locked down the state. Miles has done a fantastic job, on the whole, of not letting that ship sink. Sure we've had our moments of frustration, but it's hard to say he hasn't done a good job over the past 11 years.

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I actually feel like LSU folks undersell their history more than oversell it.

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I think this comes from the fans that were to young to remember LSU football prior to 2000. LSU has had some great stretches through the years but like you said they almost always coincided with Alabama.

Bro just admit you didn't realize they played around 6 games a year for the 1st 40 years. You're garbage.

So your wins post 2000 would have an even greater discrepancy than before. Not sure how you think that would change that argument