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re: SEC Endowments - Some Surprises Here and There

Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:15 pm to
It's ok bud

The closet door is opening for ya'll
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:18 pm to
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Trending down? Lulz. Back to the bottom? Explain why we still outpaced you by 7% over those past three years then -- and still had the 4th best percentage growth in the SEC over that timeperiod? Feel free to punch the numbers for yourself.


Growth isn't linear. There are numerous regression and best fit models you could use. Other simple correlations to population could be made as well. Very simple.
Posted by Latarian
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:18 pm to
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This is the correct up to date list.



not if you're comparing systems. that is just the U of A, our system is over $1B
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22030 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:19 pm to
Indeed they do.

K.
Posted by burbank
Member since Oct 2010
596 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:22 pm to
PUF
Permanent Unuversity Fund
Mineral Rights on lands owned by the state/ schools that help fund the Endowments for the A&M /UT systems.
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:22 pm to
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those look like system wide endowments FWIW


It is for Mizzou. It includes MU, UMKC, UMSL, and Missouri S&T. MU main branch is like 500 mil.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20497 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:25 pm to
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I explained that your endowment growth was due to your big student enrollment jump over the past decade


Current students are a contributing factor to a university endowment?

Seriously, admins, can we ban stupid people from the boards? I know it would reduce traffic, but it would certainly enhance the quality of the board.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:26 pm to
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Growth isn't linear. There are numerous regression and best fit models you could use. Other simple correlations to population could be made as well. Very simple.


Feel free to design your own model and post it here. I'll even upload the yearly numbers from 01-12 in .xls for you to take the legwork out of it...

I realize that the trends are not linear. But the two points the greatest distance apart gives the best idea of the long-term trend in a simple-to-comprehend fashion that the general masses can follow and verify themselves.

If I started doing advanced modeling, there would be endless crying about the potential of skewing the numbers purposefully than there already is with the simplest linear model...
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 6:29 pm
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:28 pm to
Vandy is most impressive imho. As a university community, they are a fraction of the size of some of the diploma mills on the list and still manage to amass one of the best endowments in the league.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 6:34 pm
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20497 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:31 pm to
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Permanent Unuversity Fund
Mineral Rights on lands owned by the state/ schools that help fund the Endowments for the A&M /UT systems.





You're lucky that Texans are cool with that. UA owns a large, very valuable tract of coal land that sits idle due to pressure from environmentalists to never lease or sell the land..
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:32 pm to
does Tech not get any of that money? what's their endowment by the way? seems like best in West Texas they'd have some oil money too.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60149 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:33 pm to
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You're lucky that Texans are cool with that


quote:

environmentalists


It's not luck homie
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60149 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

does Tech not get any of that money? what's their endowment by the way? seems like best in West Texas they'd have some oil money too.


about that...poor Tech
Posted by JoLeUGA
Mt. Mitchell, NC
Member since Mar 2009
7879 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:34 pm to
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does Tech not get any of that money? what's their endowment by the way? seems like best in West Texas they'd have some oil money too.



Systemide = almost $900M
Just in Lubbock = over $450M
Posted by sooper_rebel
Olive Branch, Mississippi
Member since Jun 2012
696 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:42 pm to
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Those are old numbers. Ole Miss is around 520 million now.


Actually, Ole Miss and Auburn both went down. Ole Miss is about 461M and Auburn is also 461M.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90583 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:45 pm to
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Missouri 1172
Arkansas 1060



Posted by sooper_rebel
Olive Branch, Mississippi
Member since Jun 2012
696 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:45 pm to
New numbers are here. It looks like most everyone went down between 2011 and 2012. https://www.nacubo.org/Documents/research/2012NCSEPublicTablesEndowmentMarketValuesRevisedFebruary42013.pdf
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60149 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:47 pm to
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So I wonder on the list if since Vandy is not a system figure if it might in reality be higher than TAMU in College Station


Fingers crossed amirite?
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:48 pm to
Vandy doesn't surprise me. Yes their alumni base is smaller, but they tend to give more. The schools/systems at the top also tend to have the biggest enrollment, and thus eventual alumni donor pool. Arkansas has some very wealthy benefactors. UGA's is about what I expected it at. Alot of the people who will give back to the UNiversity will do it through the Athletic Assoc, which I am pretty sure is entirely separate, although most AD do end up gifting some money back to the school, though.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35528 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 6:52 pm to
The Billionaire Boys Club. Of course, every B1G school is in it.

Colleges and Universities with Billion Dollar Plus Endowments
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