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re: Rumored Sony Michel injury

Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:17 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:17 pm to
Here, Sony shakes off a facemask, then a safety has him at the 1 yard line but Sony just truck him, turns South Carolina's whole secondary into bowling pins.

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:26 pm to
Sony just trucking through Mizzou's defensive line like they were just drill dummies.


Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64010 posts
Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:31 pm to
Here's more of Sony running train on Tennessee.


Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:40 pm to
Sony gave us hell no doubt about it. He had some cuts that made defenders look silly.

That said, we hadn't prepared for his running style at all which is very different from Chubb's. Coaches dropped the ball there big time but then no one really foresaw an injury to Chubb. Which actually makes me wonder why Chubb and Sony weren't splitting snaps more the way Hurd and Kamara do? Trying to prepare a DL for two very different running styles makes it all the more difficult on a defense.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22368 posts
Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

Sony gave us hell no doubt about it. He had some cuts that made defenders look silly.

That said, we hadn't prepared for his running style at all which is very different from Chubb's. Coaches dropped the ball there big time but then no one really foresaw an injury to Chubb. Which actually makes me wonder why Chubb and Sony weren't splitting snaps more the way Hurd and Kamara do? Trying to prepare a DL for two very different running styles makes it all the more difficult on a defense.

They were. Prior to the UT game Sony had 41 carries. Kamara only had 38.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:52 pm to
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They were. Prior to the UT game Sony had 41 carries. Kamara only had 38.


I honestly don't recall seeing Sony that much and I watched a lot of UGA games but memories are faulty things. Kamara wasn't used as heavily until a little later in the season so that may effect those stats (he got carries in the first game then sorta disappeared for several games).
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95915 posts
Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:53 pm to
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turns South Carolina's whole secondary into bowling pins.


One player, a safety at that.

3-9.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32878 posts
Posted on 7/5/16 at 7:58 pm to
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said, we hadn't prepared for his running style at all which is very different from Chubb's. Coaches dropped the ball there big time but then no one really foresaw an injury to Chubb. Which actually makes me wonder why Chubb and Sony weren't splitting snaps more the way Hurd and Kamara do? Trying to prepare a DL for two very different running styles makes it all the more difficult on a defense.




I thinks Chubb would have broken some more runs had he gotten sony's carries. You can't prep for unique talent like you are proclaiming. Chubb is another level up from Michel as good as Michel is.

We Just got an update from Sonys brother, and he said 6-8 weeks.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42636 posts
Posted on 7/5/16 at 8:03 pm to
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I thinks Chubb would have broken some more runs had he gotten sony's carries. You can't prep for unique talent like you are proclaiming. Chubb is another level up from Michel as good as Michel is.

We Just got an update from Sonys brother, and he said 6-8 weeks.


No what I'm saying is you prep for the way a player plays. You're not gonna stop Chubb completely.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32878 posts
Posted on 7/5/16 at 9:34 pm to
But how? They both play in a natural way that can't be prepped for. Your lb and db aren't gonna tackle Michel by preparing for his style.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42636 posts
Posted on 7/5/16 at 9:40 pm to
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But how? They both play in a natural way that can't be prepped for. Your lb and db aren't gonna tackle Michel by preparing for his style.


Film study. Chubb for example is a one cut and go RB at the line and our DL was prepped for that and instructed to try and stop him at the point of attack. Also, prior teams we're giving up inside positioning against your OL allowing Chubb to get past the DL untouched. Part of our film and game prep was shown on one of those SEC Network stories about the game. Every RB has a tendencies and you prep for that. It doesn't mean you'll be a 100 percent successful at stopping them but it helps to know a player's tendencies and see the mistakes other teams had made with Chubb and UGA's OL.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 7/5/16 at 9:57 pm to
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But how? They both play in a natural way that can't be prepped for. Your lb and db aren't gonna tackle Michel by preparing for his style.


If you've played football, you know that's not true at all. As Prof points out, every player can be analyzed for tendencies, and there's no such thing as a "natural way" that can't be prepped for by a good defense. Unless a running back is some sort of living RNG, he has strengths and weaknesses and a style, and that style is going to be reasonably consistent. That's why Bama was able to contain Chubb for most of the 2015 game -- they prepped for him, and iirc, he had a really mediocre ypc until that one late scamper. It wasn't because he's a bad back. He's clearly a very good one. It's because Bama prepared for him and specifically made his life difficult, as befits an RB who is a threat to run all over a defense if he's not hit at the point of attack.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9423 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:23 am to
Gant broke his leg on a motorbike, not a four wheeler.
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
Member since Oct 2009
25504 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:42 am to
A motorbike? What the frick is that? Where are you from?
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9423 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:45 am to
It's a bike with a motor... some red necks call them dirt bikes.

I'm from Atlanta.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 7:46 am
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
Member since Oct 2009
25504 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 7:49 am to
Makes sense
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86474 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 8:02 am to
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Especially sense the dumbass on the dawgvent said it was as bad as could be, which to me is death, then paralysis, then broken neck/back.




Who said that? I didn't see a single person say anything remotely close to that over there.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32878 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:15 am to
Op in "bad news coming" said it
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:41 am to
Glad to hear it is not too serious.

Hope he makes it back for the opening game.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32878 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:02 pm to
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That's why Bama was able to contain Chubb for most of the 2015 game -- they prepped for him,


Not buying this at all. Its scheme and talent advantages that shuts the run down for bama. Their front 7 is dominant.
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