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re: RPI Needs Report - The Top 8

Posted on 5/20/16 at 11:00 am to
Posted by cbi8
Nashville
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Posted on 5/20/16 at 11:00 am to
Help me out here, we are currently #8...but there is no way we can reach the top 8 threshold?
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17375 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 11:06 am to
Maybe because playing Arkansas is going to cause you to drop even if you win?

I don't know. Seems strange to me, too.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50340 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 11:07 am to
North Carolina State 5 0.604
South Carolina 6 0.602
Mississippi 7 0.601
Mississippi State 8 0.601
Vanderbilt 9 0.600
Texas Tech 10 0.598


5 thru 10 is separated by 0.006

MSU beating Arkansas dropped them -0.00080.
OM losing to A&M last night raised them up by 0.00195

So its close and you cannot help yourself by beating a bad team.
Posted by cbi8
Nashville
Member since Mar 2012
6801 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 11:11 am to
quote:

MSU beating Arkansas dropped them -0.00080.
OM losing to A&M last night raised them up by 0.00195


SMH. I guess they'll still be around top 9-12. National seed still seems likely.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50340 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 11:28 am to
quote:

National seed still seems likely.


Very
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 11:29 am to
there's some voodoo math going on here actually

I just glanced at everyone from 8 to 17 and only 12 LSU (if they win all 3) has a chance to reach the top 8. Since we're including 8 in that, someone has to have a chance.

I have a general idea on their math and I think it's just they set the current #8 RPI pct as the number to reach. So in this case, 0.601. But none of those teams can reach that since even with wins they go backwards.

It's going to matter who goes backwards fastest. OM needs at least 1 win to get top 8. I think if MSU wins out and OM loses out, MSU will be ahead of them.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50340 posts
Posted on 5/20/16 at 10:29 pm to
MSU drops to 10 tonight.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50340 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 8:16 am to
Current RPI, Team, Wins Needed for Top 8
1 Florida - No more wins needed
4 Texas A&M - No more wins needed
5 South Carolina - No more wins needed
6 Ole Miss - 1 win
7 Vanderbilt - No way to reach the threshold.
9 Mississippi St - No way to reach the threshold.
11 LSU - 2 wins
This post was edited on 5/21/16 at 8:18 am
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
35807 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 8:31 am to
SEC champs needs list

Mississippi State needs one win to be league champ.

Honestly this is all that really matters.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50340 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 8:33 am to
Isn't there already a thread for that? This is obviously something different, but once again State just can't not be melty.
Posted by pivey14
In Your Head
Member since Mar 2012
15445 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 9:52 am to
It seems we won't end up with a top 8 rpi, but we're pretty much a lock for a national seed.
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 10:05 am to
quote:

quote:
MSU beating Arkansas dropped them -0.00080.
OM losing to A&M last night raised them up by 0.00195


SMH. I guess they'll still be around top 9-12. National seed still seems likely.


You don't have to be top 8 to be a national seed
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50340 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 11:20 am to
quote:

You don't have to be top 8 to be a national seed



Try reading.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6960 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 11:58 am to
So Vandy is 7 RPI but won't finish top 8 after today? Who are the 2 teams that pass them today?
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50340 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

So Vandy is 7 RPI but won't finish top 8 after today? Who are the 2 teams that pass them today?



Teams that still can or already have per the report. This report makes assumtions. So the results of past opponents will alter this after each game.
UF
LSU
UL
Miami
OM
NCST
USC
A&M
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6960 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 12:18 pm to
I can see how the report sort of falls apart here at the end the season. Hard to gauge a dynamic, moving target.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50340 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 12:19 pm to
It can't predict the outcome of every game.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6960 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 12:24 pm to
Exactly. When it comes down to individual cases here at the end of the season, the limitations really show. It's a great tool otherwise.
This post was edited on 5/21/16 at 12:32 pm
Posted by RattyBlowfish
Member since Sep 2014
2947 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 8:01 pm to
Can we get an update, Farmer1906?
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