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re: Rose bowl vs Ole Miss booster

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Posted by HarryBalzack
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:42 pm to
Anyone have the English version of this post?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17453 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:48 pm to
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quote: Gene and Rose Bowl are way too involved as fans. One lost his job and the other lost his wife because of their fandom. I've always considered Gene a good guy that just let his fandom get too much of him. Rose Bowl is the scum of the earth. I think he lives in Baton Rouge, FWIW.


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If you can't get any facts right then why would anyone believe you follow or keep up with anything. Btw Steve lives in Starkville and nobody lost a wife from fandom. If you know nothing then please don't post shite talk.


This is so ironic
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17453 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:53 pm to
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Man, if we look at things rationally then we'll all (except thomasbrown) realize how much time and money and emotion we spend on a stupid game. Just roll with it and have some fun talking crap


I am all for that and completely agree. However, the issue is people have taken things to the extreme. I mean we have people who actually want to see a persons career ended for nothing more than being a coach of a rival team. I wasn't around in the Jackie days so I don't know what Ole Miss did to State but this is getting beyond ridiculous and it will only escalate.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 5:54 pm
Posted by GoRebsGo!
Member since Nov 2012
185 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 6:04 pm to
The problem isn't even freeze getting canned. Think about the economic impact that would actually come with severe penalties. Empty hotels and restaurants, loss of revenue for local businesses, this has the potential to really hurt a community economically.

Vecchio, you seem reasonable, but folks like mullenboys, and the ED crowd have unhealthy fixation.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37519 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 6:07 pm to
Freshman enrollment would drop significantly
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 6:15 pm to
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The problem isn't even freeze getting canned

I actually hope he doesn't get fired.

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Think about the economic impact that would actually come with severe penalties. Empty hotels and restaurants, loss of revenue for local businesses, this has the potential to really hurt a community economically.

I get this, but you also had 2 years of positive impact above normal conditions due to the inflated on-field results.

Ultimately, OM fans are passionate enough that they'll continue going to the games when the team is average or worse. Heck, they've been doing that for the majority of their lives. Sanctions won't change that.
Posted by GoRebsGo!
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 6:43 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 6:45 pm
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17453 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:03 pm to
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I get this, but you also had 2 years of positive impact above normal conditions due to the inflated on-field results.


So what football program is one of, if not the most, penalized team regarding NCAA violations.....so based upon what you just said then wouldn't the entire program and all the economic impact that it goes along with it be tied to "inflated on-field results"?
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:06 pm to
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I am all for that and completely agree. However, the issue is people have taken things to the extreme. I mean we have people who actually want to see a persons career ended for nothing more than being a coach of a rival team. I wasn't around in the Jackie days so I don't know what Ole Miss did to State but this is getting beyond ridiculous and it will only escalate.




So ALL he did was be a coach of a rival school?????
That's it? And that's why all the non rivals also turned him in? Didn't have anything to do with cheating his arse off huh? If he just wanted to coach, why didn't he just play by the rules and coach?
He is such a poor victim in all this.
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:08 pm to
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Rose bowl vs Ole Miss booster by GoRebsGo!
The problem isn't even freeze getting canned. Think about the economic impact that would actually come with severe penalties. Empty hotels and restaurants, loss of revenue for local businesses, this has the potential to really hurt a community economically.

Vecchio, you seem reasonable, but folks like mullenboys, and the ED crowd have unhealthy fixation.





OMG. So now all of oxfart is the victim. Poor little ole oxfart.
Posted by cypressbrake3
Member since Oct 2014
3681 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:13 pm to
I listened to a bit of a Robertson podcast today.

Seems like a pretty intelligent, well spoken dude.

Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59489 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:22 pm to
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I wasn't around in the Jackie days so I don't know what Ole Miss did to State but this is getting beyond ridiculous and it will only escalate.

It is being played out the exact same way except the roles are reversed. Everything from circumstances of evidence to fans' behavior are exactly the same. Only the team logos have changed.


Posted by Kilgore Trout
Austin, TX
Member since Oct 2014
664 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:26 pm to
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Then you started lying and making up shite about Steve Robertson.


No one has to make up anything about Rosebowl. The truth is right under his nose.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17270 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:28 pm to
I wonder, if freeze old lady let 2-3 Baws on here sniff dat trim, and it would make his problems go away, do you think it would happen ?

Asking for a friend.

A good friend.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17453 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:45 pm to
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So ALL he did was be a coach of a rival school????? That's it? And that's why all the non rivals also turned him in? Didn't have anything to do with cheating his arse off huh? If he just wanted to coach, why didn't he just play by the rules and coach? He is such a poor victim in all this.


Please provide one iota of proof of any specific item that was uncovered by the NCAA where Freeze was "cheating his arse off". And you can't use "I believe" or "I think".
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:54 pm to
How was the Oxford economic community getting by when Ed Orgeron was the HC? How were the hotels, restaurants, t-shirt shops getting by during Houston Nutts last 2 years?

Nothings meant to be easy when you suffer sanctions. Hopefully those hotels, eateries, t-shirt shops, fillin sttions, liquor stores all saved up while they were rakin in the $$$ during the Rebels good years.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 8:55 pm
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3736 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:00 pm to
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When is the NCAA expected to rule on this whole deal?



February 25
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:03 pm to
Freeze turned a blind eye to the activities of his own staff and his active players. He put a recruiting plan in place, he and Farrar were the top recruiters. If Hugh didn't have sense enough to monitor over half of his staff then he doesn't understand his job responsibilities as a HC. Hugh either knew what was going on or was too ignorant to know......either way, it doesn't sit well with the NCAA.

But it wasn't just Freeze, there were multiple progrms doing shady shite, to the point where one wonders WTF was the OM Compliance doing all these years?
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 9:04 pm
Posted by IBleedMaroonDawg
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2016
414 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:06 pm to
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Man, no one outside the State gives a shite about our two schools. Outside two or three columnists who write about us on slow news days, no one really cares. We cheated, we will be punished, the world will move on. The allegations in the first NOA were enough to hobble our program. But some folks are too damn obsessed to just let it end.


This is partially true. The everyday talk is limited to MS right now. I am so glad I am living out of state and am not subjected to hearing about it EVERY day.

But when the sanctions are handed down, everyone will be looking. What Ole Miss did recruiting wise was national news. When the news of actual penalties hits, everyone will listen. Why? It has been widely reported that most coaches have stated off the record that if Ole Miss gets off light... recruiting will become the Wild Wild West.

There's not a SEC school that hasn't had trouble with the SEC. We all have been caught before dude. Take your medicine and quit feigning innocence. There's no way you go from 6-5 to a top 5 recruiting class, stealing players across the country without something in those visit bags and tweets of blowjobs on big visit weekends.

And don't play the sanctimonious card when talking about a witch hunt when your fans hired private investigators and had a booster screw the lead NCAA investigator to get JWS on hotel stays and $20 T-shirts.

And tell Freeze to get off the cross... when the phone records are completely made public, it won't stick.
Posted by AustinDawg
Austin, Tx
Member since Aug 2015
1436 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:16 pm to
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I wasn't around in the Jackie days so I don't know what Ole Miss did to State but this is getting beyond ridiculous and it will only escalate.


State is not the issue with Ole Miss -- aside from once Mullen beat ya'll a bit you went crazy just to win the egg bowl.

Ole Miss went over and above the normal level of cheating, got caught, and was unrepentant -- Ole Miss has admitted to 6 level 1 violations (that doesn't include any of the state stuff).

It's pretty obvious that Freeze's recruiting classes were mainly because of $$$ (certainly not for player development). He's definitely not a good game day coach.

Ole Miss is the institution that escalated here, mainly because they were (and are) losing.


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