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re: Remember the Ed O'Bannon lawsuit that cancelled the NCAA Football Video Games?

Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:27 pm to
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This would work for people that only play by themselves doing dynasties and whatnot. But the problem I have with that idea is that you could never have an online mode worth a damn.


Not sure i agree with you. (But I may not understand your point) There are a number of Baseball sims out there using fictionalized players that are very good to excellent. One chief among them is Out of the Park Baseball. You can use real or fictionalized rosters and both work as online leagues very well.

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Just reread your post and see that I misunderstood. Sorry.
This post was edited on 3/5/17 at 2:33 pm
Posted by 803Tiger72
Columbia, SC
Member since Dec 2012
19 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:29 pm to
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"RB #7" from New Orleans who is rated 99


We all know it's JaMarcus Russell in disguise
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84848 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:29 pm to
NCAA won't let that happen, at least not right now
Posted by 478rebel
Oxford, ms
Member since Jan 2013
1008 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:31 pm to
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throw each player a couple hundred dollars and have the same game we had before
I always thought some solution like that would solve the problem.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:35 pm to
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he does have a lot of good points about compensating student-athletes for participating in their sports. Not sure if you guys feel the same, but see for yourself...


No,he doesn't.

Same age old arguements.IF we can repeal Title IX (which will NEVER happen)I have no
problem getting P5 CFB and basketball athletes a little more COA stipend cash.

The vast majority of these guys will blow every single penny as fast as they get paid though.
Posted by 803Tiger72
Columbia, SC
Member since Dec 2012
19 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:38 pm to
That's a great point, but I'd argue that the best part of the NCAA Football series (IMO) is Dynasty mode. Downloading accurate rosters online give your dynasty's program a certain "realness" that beats online play (which is far too often a bunch of 12 year olds that never punt, always go for it on 4th down, always go for 2, and always kick onside kicks).

But a game w/ completely random players that have no similarities to the real life team would not be something i'd purchase. It would be like buying a copy of NCAA with every roster being exact replicas of what every team's year 8 dynasty roster looks like.

I'll pass on a roster of Lamar Curtis(QB#19, left handed, 52 speed, skin color: white), Tyreke Hill (RB#47, 6'3, 180 lbs, 80 speed, skin color: white), Pat Smith (K#1, left footed, speed 47, skin color black)
Posted by Bama323_15
Member since Jan 2013
2100 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:42 pm to
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NCAA Football 14 is starting to get old.


If it is ever made again...I hope they allow the user the option of serving on the playoff committee each week and don't just show you who is ranked where each week.

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68578 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:45 pm to
I feel like most dudes just liked being able to play as a guy that could be them.

Are we honestly going to say the images on that game actually resembled the player?

One guy ruined it for a lot of people. And he doesn't even play football.
Posted by 803Tiger72
Columbia, SC
Member since Dec 2012
19 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:49 pm to
If you look in the link to the article, under the section called "Laughing at the Critics", Robinson goes pretty in depth about players being upset about the game being cancelled
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68578 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:49 pm to
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Personally I don't understand why they can't just make the games and just have random rosters and players.


Isn't that what it was? Yeah OK some of the numbers matched the current players. You could just go generic. But would they disallow creation and editing of players?

I really don't think they had any good points. The real reason people buy that game was for the teams in the game. Not for a certain player. Not when they transfer or graduate.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 2:59 pm to
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This episode of South Park brilliantly summed up how EA Sports and the NCAA treats the players


Yes it did. I thought however that I read that EA was willing to pay the players for their likeness but the NCAA wouldn't allow it.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29451 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 3:05 pm to
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Only if we were not being compensated for it

EA Sports was compensating them for using their likeness?
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 3:06 pm to
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or you have to use the standard generic roster where everybody is the same which also isn't fun IMO.


Actually, that's the only "fair" way to do it and would reflect the actually "skill" of the person playing rather than a mismatch in level of players on the field. Like that old football game (I forget which one it was) that that one team had that running back that nobody could catch. He was literally unstoppable about 99% of the time. It was never any fun playing against someone who picked that team.
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 3:08 pm to
I have a replica O'Bannon UCLA jersey that I got when I was a kid. Kind of ironic.

Wonder if it's worth anything given all that's transpired since...
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40882 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 3:10 pm to
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O' Bannon and the rest were right to do this. The NCAA was making serious bank off of them from the video game companies and then would mickey mouse these guys for every dollar they got outside of the paltry stipend they got


I haven't met a single football player, for Arkansas at least, that would rather have that small royalty check over getting to see and play as themselves in the game. It's a shame that O'Bannon's greed had to ruin it for all the players that won't get to the pros.
Posted by CaptainPanic
18.44311,-64.764021
Member since Sep 2011
25582 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 3:32 pm to
The idea of athletes getting paid (more than they already do now) in college is just ridiculous.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39109 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:19 pm to
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It's a shame that O'Bannon's greed had to ruin it for all the players that won't get to the pros.


They were using O'Bannon's likeness from when he played, in 1995 when he sued them in 2009.

Do you feel that he signed away the rights to his likeness forever by taking the UCLA scholarship?

Keep in mind he sued over a new product, not the one from 1995.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24264 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:36 pm to
Tens of thousands of dollars in free education, room and board, meals and stipends are not nothing. They get paid just not as much as NFL players and for good reason.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:40 pm to
As is the argument that they should get paid. Do we really need to run down the long list of benifits they receive to play a sport?
Posted by TheSwineAssault
The Delta
Member since Apr 2010
1623 posts
Posted on 3/5/17 at 8:24 pm to
UCLA should forfeit their 1995 NCAA Championship. Wasn't Obannon playing ineligible and that's why Jon Harrick lost his job? Hogs should have won back to back.
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