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re: Ranking the SEC states in terms of "Southernness"
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:10 pm to wmr
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:10 pm to wmr
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Not to mention that in the late 1890s/early 1900s, thousands of transplanted New Yorkers traveled to the Port of New Orleans for jobs, and many stayed there. Over the years, the following generations have proliferated all over SE La. This is the reason many New Orleanians talk with a 'Bronx/Brooklyn' accent.
man, i'm not saying you're wrong but I have studied new Orleans history and never ran across this. new Orleans is the original melting pot that started way before Louisiana was a state. yes, a sizable Italian population migrated there and maybe they shipped from the port of new York but I think they were just Italians.
also, lots of irish, Hungarian, german along with the French and Spanish settled the city. oddly enough, when the Acadians (Cajuns to the scott irish southern rednecks) arrived from novia scotia the French creoles wouldn't allow them to settle there; they were "peasants" and had to go find their own place to live. The creoles (which were 14 carat French not the definition the scott irish prods have changed it to) were high society and quite wealthy. south Louisiana has adopted some southern ways for sure but it does not meet the definition many here have put on "being southern". hell, hardly any Cajuns (y'all win) or French new orleanians fought in that war. it was not their war. 
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:12 pm to SammyTiger
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Mountain People Tier
Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky
Ozarks, Appalachians, Smokeys whatever i don't know mountains Moonshine 6 teeth.
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Damn Yankees Tier
Missouri
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:14 pm to LSU GrandDad
^New Orleans is an incredibly diverse place and yeah a mix just like E. TN is albeit a different kind of mix but the cool thing about the South is that there really is a lot of diversity. Hell, just look at the different types of bbq alone!
While the Deep South states of Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and South Carolina tend to define us even they have differences and the rest of us are even more unique. There's no monolithic South.
While the Deep South states of Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and South Carolina tend to define us even they have differences and the rest of us are even more unique. There's no monolithic South.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:14 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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8. Florida Voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012. Bottom of the list.
yet florida is the most educated state in the south (more college grads). go figure.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:22 pm to SammyTiger
Louisiana is definitely near the top when it comes to "southern architecture"
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:23 pm to nb200016
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Florida is definitely not more southern than Texas or Kentucky.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:26 pm to bigdawg7780
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There are several nice places to live in both GA and SC to live....moving on
I've lived in both and traveled both states for business extensively. I say BOTH are great states and I met some wonderful people. BOTH are southern as frick. of course, Atlanta is a huge city and has a lot of non southernors there but they seem to love converting.
lastly, I had more jewish clients in Atlanta than I did in Miami. damn good folk. can't cook tho. Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:27 pm to GeorgeReymond
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Louisiana is definitely near the top when it comes to "southern architecture"
NOLA is one of our crown jewels and in terms of culture I'd place it at #1. Too many folks think only of rural plantations and while that's a part of our shared regional history there's so much more to our region - hell some of us didn't even have plantations.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:27 pm to LSU GrandDad
I've never been to SC. I wanna go though
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:28 pm to GeorgeReymond
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Louisiana is definitely near the top when it comes to "southern architecture"
Replace "near" with "at" and you've got something!
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:30 pm to LSU GrandDad
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man, i'm not saying you're wrong but I have studied new Orleans history and never ran across this.
Wow, I thought everyone knew this, because it's the origin of Yats. (Where ya at!?)
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:34 pm to LSU GrandDad
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yet florida is the most educated state in the south (more college grads). go figure.
Combined with McCain and Romney both being shite candidates.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:37 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
I've always understood the similarities between the "Yat" accent and the Brooklynese accent to stem from New York and New Orleans both being massive ports of entry for German, Irish, and Italian immigrants.
In New Orleans' case, the immigrant dialects blended with those of the Blacks, Creoles, etc.
In New Orleans' case, the immigrant dialects blended with those of the Blacks, Creoles, etc.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:37 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
While NOLA does have earlier transplants I'm pretty sure the Yats are newcomers - within our parents/grandparents time period. Just about all of the South had Northerners come down post-Civil War but their impact was in carpetbagging/politics until later waves of immigration (Post WWII, is really when the Northern migration).
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:47 pm to LSU GrandDad
If you think Houston is Mexican, try San Antonio or the Rio Grande Valley. My guess is that you don't know "Mexican" when you see it.
I'll stick to my comment about Houston being a Southern City.
I'll stick to my comment about Houston being a Southern City.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:52 pm to Jefferson Davis
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I've always understood the similarities between the "Yat" accent and the Brooklynese accent to stem from New York and New Orleans both being massive ports of entry for German, Irish, and Italian immigrants.
It's actually a direct result of the old New York-New Orleans Steamship company. A lot of transplants both ways.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:57 pm to The Balinese Club
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. My guess is that you don't know "Mexican" when you see it.
I have lived here for 8 years now. I know "Mexican" when I see it. I hear it EVERY DAY just about every place I go. Close to 50% of the population here is Mexican (OK maybe some are guatamalen). you can't hire an anglo anymore. I know Mexican. maybe your image of Mexican is different because of your experiences in the locales you mentioned. I damn sure don't plan on going to any of them to find out. so I guess i'm folding because the price to research your statement is too high.
I had not been in tejas for 35 years when I moved here in 2005 and I was shocked at the difference. used to be a much, much nicer place. sorry guy, the Alamo was for nought. also, I realize Houston has some southern to it but having lived in the south my whole life (literally every southern state was in my territory for over 35 years) I know southern when I see it. This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 4/4/14 at 6:01 pm to KCM0Tiger
Strong Push to be mountain people , yankee.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 6:08 pm to LSU GrandDad
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used to be a much, much nicer place
My dad, a native Texan, says the same thing.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 6:18 pm to KCM0Tiger
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How would you rank the SEC states in regards to how "Southern" they are?
1. Mississippi
2. Alabama
3. South Carolina
4. Georgia
5. Louisiana
6. Arkansas
7. Tennessee
8. Florida
9. Texas
10. Kentucky
11. Missouri
Perfect list.
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