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re: Quick question for Georgia fans.

Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:18 am to
Posted by WithaRebelYell
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:18 am to
I disagree if Lambert plays well yall will be in it for sure. I was impressed with the way Eason played in the spring game. I was not impressed with elite eleven or the army all american game. It is hard to play well in those games because you haven't gotten to know your WR's.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 9:19 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:21 am to
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I disagree


I appreciate you not just being a flaming homo like many here and trying to be positive, but we're serious. Trust us, we've seen every snap lambert and ramsey have ever taken which I'm going out on a limb and guessing you haven't. And what we've gathered in that time is that with either of those starting, we shouldnt' feel good about our chances to win ANY of our games besides nicholls st. and ULL.

Eason is raw, he's young, he's inexperienced, and he will make mistakes. But he is by far our best chance at beating good football teams.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:24 am to
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I disagree if Lambert plays well yall will be in it for sure.

He's played well in one game his entire college career, and it was against a terrible football team. I don't love those odds.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:29 am to
to break it down further, let's look at how he did against average/meh teams beginning with october. So, this doesn't even count the GOOD teams like bama or ut.

Mizz- 23/32, 178 yards, 0 TD/1 Int
UK- 6/13, 64 yards, 1 TD/0 Int
AU- 12/17, 97 yards, 0 TD/0 Int
Ga Southern- 16/25, 183 yards, 1 TD/0 Int
Ga tech- 18/25, 224 yards, 0 Td/0 Int

Average: 149 yards, 0.4 Tds



Those kinda numbers are going to get us blown out against actually good teams.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 9:32 am
Posted by WithaRebelYell
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:42 am to
Yeah I have no idea why people think they have to flame so they get approval from complete strangers. I just wanna talk football.


I agree sometimes I've watched lambert and thought is this guy really a SEC QB? Then I look at his stats and they aren't that bad he doesn't throw a lot of picks and yall have some serious talent at RB. Yall can make this work for a while. Then bring out Eason when he's ready. I just think it might be longer than 5 games. Wouldn't it be exciting if people thought they had UGA figured out but then they had a change at QB and their identity of their ofense completely changed. I think UGA will be a lot better of a team by game 8.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:44 am to
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Name one true freshman that has done an above average job at quarterback in the SEC.


I imagine the list is short on true freshman who have started at qb in the sec to begin with.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:52 am to
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I look at his stats and they aren't that bad he doesn't throw a lot of picks


that's like the one positive he has going for him, and I KNOW you can say this about literally any QB ever, but there were at least 5 to 6 balls that he threw directly into a defender's hands and was dropped.

Also on teh INT angle, I don't think anyone would call Hutson Mason ('14) some badass AA qb, but he was also looked at as a safe guy who wouldn't turn it over and he only threw 4 interceptions that year compared to lambert's 2. However, he also threw for 21 touchdowns compared to 12. Not turning it over is great but you HAVE to pose SOME kind of passing threat, which GL does not.

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yall have some serious talent at RB.


Sony is out til at least missouri and chubb is coming off the knee.

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Then bring out Eason when he's ready. I just think it might be longer than 5 games.


You're just not understanding I don't think. We don't have a chance to beat ole miss or tennessee with GL at QB. We will automatically lose those games with GL. With eason, we very well may lose alos but at LEAST we will have a potential downfield threat and keep the defense honest. With GL all teams have to do is put 8 or 9 in the box and make us throw, which we can't with him.

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I think UGA will be a lot better of a team by game 8.


Me too, because Eason will have his feet under him at that point.

Look at last year. You'd think after his record shattering performance against SC he would get hot, but look at my post above. We were skating by some BAD teams late in the season. We went ot overtime with georgia southern for fricks sake, which is something that no UGA team ever or forever from now should ever do.
Posted by WithaRebelYell
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 9:56 am to
Yeah I just looked at your schedule you gotta bring him out early. I just don't know what you do. I am just worried about his confidence. You have to look him in the eye and say if you throw 12 picks in the first three games you are still my QB.i don't think he will do that but man I dunno.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 9:58 am
Posted by hangingdawg
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:09 am to
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Name one true freshman that has done an above average job at quarterback in the SEC.



I imagine the list is short on true freshman who have started at qb in the sec to begin with.




I don't think being a true freshman is as much of a handicap as it was before. The elite QBs attend camps with pro coaches for a couple of years before college. Army All American and UnderArmour type games as well as state all star type games all give more experiences than players got just a few years ago. They are better prepared today for D1 football.

In Eason's case, He was able to enter school for January classes and participate in spring practice. All under new coaches with a new offensive scheme. There is no real advantage for any of the QBs.

My feeling is that UGA has the talent to average over thirty points a game. We should be strong at TE and RB positions. Looks like Pittman is putting together a descent O-line. We have some guys with speed that can catch the ball and run. In short, QB
is not the key to this years team success. Health and depth of the interior defensive line and coaching decisions will make the difference.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:09 am to
We finished #2 in the country in 07, and it was in large part because Stafford had grown into his own and was finally comfortable with his immense talent.

Teh light didn't come on though until AU of his TFr season. Prior to that game, here were his stats against the previous 10 opponents:

96 for 186 (52%), 1,230 yards, 4 TDs, 12 Ints.


Sometimes, when it is abundantly clear that you have a "the guy" on your team, you're better suited letting him take his lumps early for later payoffs. Eason is clearly our guy. Ramsey has never done anything and Lambert is a senior. Eason will be our starter in 17 and 18 so we really have no reason not to start him now.

Also, we essentially have a free pass. BRand new system, brand new head coach, all new staff...nobody is going to raise hell if we go 8-4 because we're kinda supposed to. Might as well go 8-4 with eason than lambert. Because why not?

Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:11 am to
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I am just worried about his confidence.

He's going to make mistakes when he's first starting off regardless. We need to deal with that now, not in 2017 when we actually look to have a team that could win something.
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You have to look him in the eye and say if you throw 12 picks in the first three games you are still my QB.

I do agree with this. Once he starts, there's no turning back. Even if that means we go 5-7 or something.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:38 am to
I've gone back and forth on this one. Realistically, unless he just WOWs going into the fall during the practices and scrimmages, the best plan is to probably *start* Greyson Lambert with at least 2-3 planned/scripted possessions for Eason in the first half. At that point, the game should largely dictate what we do, and Eason (and Lambert) should be told ahead of time that being removed from the game isn't anything to do with his play, simply ebbs and flows and game management from the coaching staff. Nicholls State should be an Eason start, simply to get the jitters of "first start" out of the way, with Lambert probably rotating in for a few possessions as well. At that point, you've got a small sample size, but at least real in-game film to dissect and make the call on what you're doing going into the 3 game stretch of Mizzou, Ole Miss, and UT. I'd prefer to see Eason, but again, on field results should dictate - all else being pretty even, go with the future.

I think we'd all like to see Eason create such a gap between them that they have no choice to start him, but I don't see that as being likely. I'm fine with a more fluid QB position, officially naming Lambert starter for opening early but with a clear expectation that there could be some rotation. Unexpected bonus might be that the legit competition from Eason causes Lambert to actually step his game up.

He had his share of problems last year, but the OL did not help him much either, to the point that eventually he looked shell shocked and was looking to dump it off quick more often than not. Use of TE, a hopefully improved OL under Pittman, and I could see Lambert having a modicum of improvement.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:42 am to
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Message
Quick question for Georgia fans. by WithaRebelYell
Yeah I just looked at your schedule you gotta bring him out early. I just don't know what you do. I am just worried about his confidence. You have to look him in the eye and say if you throw 12 picks in the first three games you are still my QB.i don't think he will do that but man I dunno.


It's why I think he is gonna earn the job off the bench after an upperclassmen looks like crap
Posted by WithaRebelYell
Bristol TN
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:09 am to
Who is the go to WR or do you have more than one?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 11:28 am to
Godwin is our go to WR.
Posted by No Colors
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 1:28 pm to
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John Bond

Lol. I think Bond had us down like 23-7 or something in the 4th quarter of the 1983 Hand of God game. State had 3 TOs in the 4th quarter, including a Bond interception and a Bond fumble that was a Scoop and Score.

Fond memories. Fond memories.
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 4:28 pm to
I believe he starts by the Ole Miss game. They will give him a gameplan he can handle initially. He handled the spring game very well although just a scrimmage. He'll slowly build up his knowledge of the playbook each week.

They seem to say that Chaney has an affinity for gunslingers so I'd imagine he's prepping Eason sooner rather than later.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 5:56 pm to
If your gonna get your shots vs. UGA, you gotta do it this year.

They could have the most talented team in the country next year.
Posted by Dawgholio
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:18 pm to
45 TDs and 3 Ints. National Championship
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32845 posts
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:28 pm to
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If your gonna get your shots vs. UGA, you gotta do it this year.

They could have the most talented team in the country next year.



Behind bama and Ohio state? I can believe that.
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