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Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:14 pm to Cali 4 LSU
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:14 pm to Cali 4 LSU
your avatar is the consequence for Bama getting a title? 
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:18 pm to Cali 4 LSU
lsu is my number 2 team. i consider bama/lsu the jugernauts of the sec. everybody else is chasing us.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:19 pm to bona fide
My avatar is the consequence for Bama & LSU being equal. 
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:20 pm to Cali 4 LSU
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Answer this...why was it OK for Bama to win a NC for beating LSU once but LSU had to beat Bama twice to get the NC? That shite was arse backwards & I don't blame the players for not showing up.
Regarding not winning your conference, see Nebraska 2001 and Oklahoma 2003. Regarding a regular season win being rendered meaningless, see Florida/Florida State 1996. Also, rematches have occurred within a conference like LSU/Georgia 2003, where one team won both matchups. It's all the past so don't complain that I'm bringing up games from about a decade or more ago.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:21 pm to TCBRTR
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Miles could be done, IMO. You could argue no one has done less with more than Miles. Inherited a "damn fine team" in 2005. Sure he won the BCS (two losses) in 2007 with Saban's players
Maybe you something the rest of us don't but I'm not aware of any plans for Les to bow out.
Since Saban's arrival at Bama in '07, Bama holds a 4-3 advantage. If you look at the scores of those 7 games one is a statistical outlier (guess which one?).
In the six regular season games over that period, the record is 3-3. There has been a lead change in the 4th qtr or a tie in all six. There is 6pt differential over those games.
If you want to say Les won with Saban's players in '07 then he lost with 'em in '08 (or do we say Nick won with Shula's players in '08?).
You've won 1 SEC and are 2 for 2 in NC's in the Saban era.
We've won 2 SECs and are 1 for 2 in NC's.
It's a great series and very competitive.
As for doing less with more, no way we can compete with Texas and USC.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:27 pm to Cali 4 LSU
Umm yes they did. Lsu lost not once, but twice. Hell, they lost their last regular season game to an unranked Arkansas team AT HOME. The only reaon they got in the ncg was bc of other teams ahead of them losing - same as Bama benefitting from ok state and others losing.
Wouldn't have mattered if they won the sec championship game if W.Va and Missouri hadnt lost. They wouldn't have jumped from #7 to #2 by beating a #15 TN without the help from those teams losing. It's a very similar perfect storm that had to happen for LSU in 2007 as for Bama in '11.
Furthermore, i hope you realize that even tho the winner of the seccg has gone on to the ncg often in recent years, it's not a prerequisite for getting into the game - so that point is totally moot.
Wouldn't have mattered if they won the sec championship game if W.Va and Missouri hadnt lost. They wouldn't have jumped from #7 to #2 by beating a #15 TN without the help from those teams losing. It's a very similar perfect storm that had to happen for LSU in 2007 as for Bama in '11.
Furthermore, i hope you realize that even tho the winner of the seccg has gone on to the ncg often in recent years, it's not a prerequisite for getting into the game - so that point is totally moot.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:29 pm to Madara
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Regarding not winning your conference, see Nebraska 2001 and Oklahoma 2003. Regarding a regular season win being rendered meaningless, see Florida/Florida State 1996. Also, rematches have occurred within a conference like LSU/Georgia 2003, where one team won both matchups. It's all the past so don't complain that I'm bringing up games from about a decade or more ago.
The BCS approach was/is fundamentally flawed since its inception. It generates controversy almost every season.
On the other hand, rematch or not, there is NO CONTROVERSY ever regarding the SECCG.
Bringing up past flaws in the BCS is meaningless. It's inherent in its design. And there are none in the SECCG.
So in a flawed system Bama has won 2 BCS titles to our one. In a flawless system, we've won two SEC titles to Bama's one.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:31 pm to Madara
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Regarding not winning your conference, see Nebraska 2001 and Oklahoma 2003. Regarding a regular season win being rendered meaningless, see Florida/Florida State 1996. Also, rematches have occurred within a conference like LSU/Georgia 2003, where one team won both matchups. It's all the past so don't complain that I'm bringing up games from about a decade or more ago.
Don't worry...I'm not complaining about anything. Just giving the reasons I think LSU/Bama are equal. And I don't care about Nebraska/Oklahoma/Florida/Florida State. None of those teams are in the same conference much less the same division. Rematches are awful. Why wasn't there a Ohio St/Michigan rematch in the 2008/2009..was it? No one really wants to see it.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:35 pm to ChoadieMcSmalls
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Umm yes they did.
Ummm no they didn't...go back and read carefully what I wrote in my post. Furthermore, look at the wins of a team to qualify them for the NCG, not the losses. Then you'll see in 2007 AND 2011 it should have been LSU & LSU/OSU respectively.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:37 pm to Cali 4 LSU
If it makes you feel better, than yes you can be our fourth or fifth rival. 
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:39 pm to AlwysATgr
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So in a flawed system Bama has won 2 BCS titles to our one. In a flawless system, we've won two SEC titles to Bama's one.
I wasn't even trying to change the subject of this thread!
I was just pointing out to the few entitled Bama fans that think they are far superior b/c they have 2 titles in 3 years that last year they got lucky. Hell, this year too since we almost beat them. But I give them credit for winning when they need to, they're good at it.Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:39 pm to b at m at
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My avatar is the consequence for Bama & LSU being equal.
Let it go. Your butt will hurt less.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:40 pm to AlwysATgr
In saying that the seccg has no flaws are you also claiming that the two best teams in the sec didn't reside in one division last year?
There is no wildcard or anything of that nature in the sec "playoff". you could have one division with every team unranked and with 3-4 losses each while the other div has two teams with 1 loss or less that are obviously far superior but they can't play a rematch in the seccg.
IMO the seccg is where the LSU/Bama rematch should have occurred last yr, but the rules aren't set up to allow it so whatever.
There is no wildcard or anything of that nature in the sec "playoff". you could have one division with every team unranked and with 3-4 losses each while the other div has two teams with 1 loss or less that are obviously far superior but they can't play a rematch in the seccg.
IMO the seccg is where the LSU/Bama rematch should have occurred last yr, but the rules aren't set up to allow it so whatever.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:40 pm to Cali 4 LSU
The only consequence that I see is that Bama now has 3 crystal balls.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:41 pm to BrasilBama
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Let it go. Your butt will hurt less.
Nope and my arse is just fine according to my hubbie.
Wish the Bama fans would "let go" of their title in 2009 since "it's in the past and their butt will hurt less"...
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:42 pm to Cali 4 LSU
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I'll always claim part of that title even if no one else does
See the bold.
You seem terribly angry my friend, especially for a broad.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:42 pm to Cali 4 LSU
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Since Saban's arrival at Bama in '07, Bama holds a 4-3 advantage. If you look at the scores of those 7 games one is a statistical outlier (guess which one?).
In the six regular season games over that period, the record is 3-3. There has been a lead change in the 4th qtr or a tie in all six. There is 6pt differential over those games.
Let just use this argument for the sake of the OP's question. LSU slipping? Well, yes, according to these stats, as Bama now has the advantage and won two of the last three. All the while Saban has been rebuilding, now reloading at Bama, what's Miles accomplished? An SECC? Cool. Even gave his players rings that said "2d Nationally." WTH?
I'm not trying to take anything away from LSU but I am answering the OP's question. I DO think LSU is as competitive with Alabama as anyone else RIGHT NOW. The results aren't the same but yes, it's a competitive rivalry.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:42 pm to stho381
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Question is, are you bummed that LSU is pretty much neck and neck with you and will be for quite a while?
No. I have always liked LSU, and I'm glad that they're competitive. Alabama and LSU run shite around here.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:43 pm to Cali 4 LSU
Lost cause with this one. The butthurt runs real deep. 21-0 mattered. As did 21-17
Posted on 11/5/12 at 9:44 pm to Cali 4 LSU
Lol I cant debate with someone who bases their opinion on emotion and not facts.
LSU jumped from #7 to #2 only because teams ahead of them lost. That is an undeniable fact.
LSU jumped from #7 to #2 only because teams ahead of them lost. That is an undeniable fact.
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