re: Question about some conference titles in football.

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Seriously, a Tennessee fan shouldn't joke about weak conference schedules. UT is the Queen Mother of weak conference schedules since the SEC has existed

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Are you actually serious?

Sewanee was only in the SEC for 8 years.

The conference win loss records of each SEC teams' conference game opponents since the conference started (head to head games removed from the conference record):


1 Texas A&M (61-51-0)--0.54464
2 Auburn (1671-1442-87)--0.53578
3 Missouri (59-53-0)--0.52679
4 Arkansas (637-590-5)--0.51907
5 LSU (1579-1464-80)--0.51841
6 Mississippi St. (1553-1484-100)--0.51100
7 Kentucky (1540-1472-88)--0.51097
8 Tennessee (1536-1506-87)--0.50479
9 Georgia Tech (478-480-67)--0.49902
10 Alabama (1594-1601-94)--0.49894
11 South Carolina (608-618-6)--0.49594
12 Florida (1481-1506-82)--0.49593
13 Vanderbilt (1502-1547-82)--0.49281
14 Georgia (1460-1570-93)--0.48239
15 Sewanee (83-91-14)--0.47872
16 Tulane (456-502-67)--0.47756
17 Mississippi (1389-1586-90)--0.46786

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By the way that's the sketchiest link i've ever seen

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I wasn't going to say anything, but since you brought it up. This comment in particular says "I'm ignorant":

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And of course the Vols traditionally schedule Vanderbilt and Kentucky, two more schools with very little football success while Neyland was coaching, and not a lot since he left.

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Very little football success? Well since Neyland left, yes, however painting Vanderbilt as having little success prior to 1939 is pretty ignorant.

Prior to 1939 (the season he mentions), Vanderbilt had an all-time record of 291-96-27, for a winning percentage of 0.736. That winning percentage is higher than any of the other current SEC teams, even Alabama. From the start of Neyland's career at Tennessee in 1926 to 1938, only Tennessee and Alabama had a higher winning percentage than Vanderbilt.

People that don't look historically and use the old "yeah they suck now so they must always have sucked" bit should not be taken seriously.

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Nice! Proud of you

still doesn't change the fact you lost twice as many games as you won...

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Before the uniform number of conference games began in 1978, any team unbeaten in conference play won a share of the SEC title. In fact,you left LSU and Alabama off your list from 1961. LSU was 6-0 and Alabama was 7-0.

Through the 1968 season, the SEC assigned some out of conference games as 'SEC Games' to ensure every team played at least 6 SEC games.Hence, North Carolina vs Georgia in '66. (In fact,LSU only played 4 true SEC games in 1968 as games vs TCU and Tulane counted as SEC games).

For whatever reason, Alabama and Ole Miss had a two game series in 1980 and 1981 knowing full well they wouldn't count as SEC games and were considered 'non conference' games.

In 1976 Kentucky lost to Mississippi State.However, a year or so later the NCAA had Miss State forfeit several,if not all games in 1975 and 1976, including the '76 UK game. Kentucky was retroactively awarded a share of the 1976 SEC title with 5-1 Georgia.

I think somewhere in this thread it was mentioned (correctly) that originally in 1984 Florida was named SEC champion while not being allowed to go to the Sugar or any bowl. In the Spring of 1985 AD's and Chancellors/Presidents voted to strip Florida of their 1984 title and make them ineligible for the upcoming 1985 season title.

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9 nine years of losing has deadened my sense, but keep trying

Jimmies remain unrustled

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And yet you keep replying.

In the old days because of travel and even into the 1980s teams might play more SEC games than the conference scheduled, but they didn't count but a set number.

In 1988 thete was a 3 way tie if I am not mistaken.

This really isn't a mystery guys.

Head to head was not a tie breaker, after all a team at home had an advantage.

5-1 vs 5-1 is was consideted a co title.