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re: Question about some conference titles in football.

Posted on 1/22/14 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by TheDude321
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 10:58 pm to
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Georgia finished #5. They went undefeated in conference play while both LSU and Ole Miss had a loss.


Ole Miss' 1959 team was picked as the all-time greatest college football team ever in one poll...would've flattened UG if they had played head-to-head.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 10:58 pm to
The all-time greatest?
Posted by Smalls
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:00 pm to
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Korin


I've got no more use for this guy.
Posted by TheDude321
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:01 pm to
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The all-time greatest?


LINK.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:04 pm to
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Who leads the series between Florida and Tennessee?


Seeing as youre a UF fan, i'm assuming your question is rhetorical


UT and florida played like 9 times before 1992. If we had been a regular matchup before that then UT would dominate the series. So thank you for proving my point. Who lost to Georgia Southern this year?
This post was edited on 1/22/14 at 11:08 pm
Posted by beachreb61
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:56 pm to
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quote: Maybe retarded, but absolutely happened. Ole Miss was assigned Arkansas as a conference game a number of years. Didn't mean Arkansas was in the SEC at the time, just that they counted as a conference game for Ole Miss. All of this nonsense, instead of just playing a school ACTUALLY IN the conference? I don't even... Reply • Options • Back to Top


It happened mainly because Georgia Tech refused to play Ole Miss when Vaught was here, as did many others in the conference. The league didn't schedule games, the schools did. And if you couldn't get 6 other teams to schedule conference games, the conference assigned a non c to count. Usually they picked your toughest ooc. If history is being questioned, it should be studied first IMHO.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 12:23 am to
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Seeing as youre a UF fan, i'm assuming your question is rhetorical

UT and florida played like 9 times before 1992. If we had been a regular matchup before that then UT would dominate the series. So thank you for proving my point. Who lost to Georgia Southern this year?

1. In your opinion.
2. Seriously? Who lost to the team that lost to Georgia Southern?
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:16 am to
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1988 - LSU beat Auburn head-to-head (both were tied in SEC play), but AU gets credit for an SEC title.


Auburn also received the SEC's automatic bid to the Sugar Bowl. It helps having the SEC's office located in the same state.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:19 am to
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In your opinion


And probably every other person on the rant's opinion too.. UT was good pre-90s, UF was shite pre-90s. It's really just common sense

quote:

Seriously? Who lost to the team that lost to Georgia Southern?


The team that had more wins than you and beat a top 5 team
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:20 am to
3-5 > 2-6

Edit: 3414 days and counting.
This post was edited on 1/23/14 at 9:22 am
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:27 am to
5-7>4-8?

You think I don;t know we're in a 9 game losing streak? You, sir, are ignorant
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:28 am to
Y'all finished below us. All that matters.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:36 am to
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Ole Miss' 1959 team was picked as the all-time greatest college football team ever in one poll...would've flattened UG if they had played head-to-head.

The frick does this have to do with who won the SEC?
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:45 am to
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Y'all finished below us. All that matters


Nice! Proud of you

still doesn't change the fact you lost twice as many games as you won...


Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:55 am to
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The North Carolina game was designated by the SEC as a conference game and counted in the conference record, which is why they list Georgia at 6-0.




WTF UGA played 6 SEC teams in 66' MSU, AU, Miss, Tech, UK, & UF. UNC was a non conference game. I guess maybe you forgot tech was in the SEC at that time or something and thats why you tried to justify UNC as a conference game.

But per UGA directly they only went 5-0 in conference play
This post was edited on 1/23/14 at 10:03 am
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 10:23 am to
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The frick does this have to do with who won the SEC?




It just goes along with the OP's theme that SEC titles awarded before the championship game was invented were a bit screwy.

Ole Miss' 1959 team was designated as the #1 greatest team of all time by footballoutsiders.com--and LSU's '59 team is also listed as #28 all-time, out of tens of thousands of teams that have played over the years...yet neither of those teams won the '59 SEC title, because a team in the eastern part of the conference went undefeated against a weaker conference schedule.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 10:25 am to
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Ole Miss' 1959 team was designated as the #1 greatest team of all time by footballoutsiders.com--and LSU's '59 team is also listed as #28 all-time, out of tens of thousands of teams that have played over the years...yet neither of those teams won the '59 SEC title, because a team in the eastern part of the conference went undefeated against a weaker conference schedule.


And I bet LSU fans started a schedule thread about it
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 10:37 am to
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WTF UGA played 6 SEC teams in 66' MSU, AU, Miss, Tech, UK, & UF. UNC was a non conference game. I guess maybe you forgot tech was in the SEC at that time or something and thats why you tried to justify UNC as a conference game.

But per UGA directly they only went 5-0 in conference play




No, he's right. Tech withdrew from the SEC in '64. In '66, Bama won the SEC title at 6-0. UG didn't play the required six conference games to qualify for the title (since the Tech game no longer counted in the standings), so they were allowed to designate UNC as a shadow "conference game" instead--never mind the fact that UG had TWO YEARS to replace Tech on their schedule with another (real) SEC team. In the end, Bama got kind of screwed here and had to share the title with UG.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 10:41 am to
I forgot they left in the ealrier 60's, but still UGA's own record books denote 5-0 in conference play, FWIW
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3155 posts
Posted on 1/23/14 at 10:42 am to
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And I bet LSU fans started a schedule thread about it


Good one.

Seriously, a Tennessee fan shouldn't joke about weak conference schedules. UT is the Queen Mother of weak conference schedules since the SEC has existed.
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