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re: QB is NOT Gus Malzahn's Main Problem
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:22 pm to Hussss
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:22 pm to Hussss
AU QB recruiting confuses me some times. You know what Gus needs to make that offense work, and then someone like White trots out to take the reins. WTF? Hurts would do wonders under Gus. White would fit better at UGA or LSU.
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:25 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Let's see what happens.
It will be interesting because many had written off Steele just from what we saw at LSU. He had a great 1st season, I guess next year will be more telling to see if that was mainly him with great players or something else.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:27 pm to Allyn McKeen
That's my opinion as well. Several of my fellow fans will argue that point but I believe even Malzahn has come to that conclusion based on the QB's he is targeting lately.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:31 pm to rockiee
I can't disagree with you, but we have some highly talented and experienced players returning in D. It may look different without Adams and Lawson up front but could still be productive.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:35 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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It may look different without Adams and Lawson up front but could still be productive.
That is why I asked about your secondary. I don't think its stated enough how much a good Dline can help the back end of the defense. Your Dline this past year was nasty, I think they spread through the whole defense.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:38 pm to rockiee
We lose Holsey and Ford two very experienced DB's. However, we do have some talent there that got playing time this year. Our secondary with those guys got chewed up against elite QB's and WR's. So we don't have far to look any worse on that note.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:56 pm to PearlJam
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Fool's gold. His issues have been the same for several years
I don't disagree at all. I am merely saying that for us to fire him when he took us to the Sugar Bowl would reflect poorly on Auburn, and would compromise our ability to hire a suitable replacement.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:02 pm to TailbackU
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I don't disagree at all. I am merely saying that for us to fire him when he back doored us to the Sugar Bowl would reflect poorly on Auburn, and would compromise our ability to hire a suitable replacement.
Fixed it
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:07 pm to Kafkas father
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Fixed it
"You say tomato I say tomahto." Or in Alabammy-speak, "you say 'maters"
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:20 pm to Kafkas father
Bama fans should know more about getting in the back door than anyone. Well except A&M fans of course
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:20 pm to TailbackU
Chip Kelly is available right now. Better make a move because he won't be available for long. Minnesota just pulled the trigger on a coach, if you want Kelly, now is the time.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:22 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
We don't get in the back door, we take it in the back door
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:29 pm to Hussss
We scored SEVEN on UGA
congrats.
but AU didn't.
congrats.
but AU didn't.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:35 pm to gladchiefisgone
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the offense just looked very vanilla and predicable.
Nobody's falling for that Mickey Mouse shite anymore. Gus is gimmick Gus. One-trick pony. It worked great for a year, maybe 2 and then that was it.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:42 pm to bamasgot13
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This shite. Come on. Why do some AU fans struggle to admit that Tubs was let go? You don't pay someone $5M when they "resign", unless you allowed them to say they "resigned" in order for them to save face.
Tubs actually chose to leave with his money as per a clause in his contract. There was more under the table talk to another coach in '08, Tubs saw the writing on the wall and took his money and left. Tubs never got along with the BoT and they never liked him. Tubs was a 9 win coach and that was during a period of downtime for a lot of teams in the SEC.
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Maybe this is who AU is. Sprinkle in the occasional awesome year (2004, 2010, 2013), but maybe 8-9 wins is where the program is. It's certainly where you've been for the better part of 40 years. That's ok. A ton of teams would kill to average 8-9 wins every year.
Not sure why Auburn fans don't see this. We were 8-5 this year and had losses to three teams that will likely finish in the top 5 at the end. UGA is the only loss that I really found unacceptable this year and the lack of viable options at quarterback.
Malzahn has more upside than any other coach in the SEC(outside of Saban) if he will get out of his own way and accept other's ideas into the offense and improve quarterback development.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:00 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
QB is the problem.
2015 is a 9 win team with a serviceable SEC level QB and 2016 is a 10 win team. Neither would have won the conference, etc...but it is amazing at the difference in fan attitudes between 9-11 wins and 7-8 wins. A dynamic QB in 2016 might have been something special with a healthy backfield and that D.
I do believe Gus' running attack needs two things we haven't had since NM left. It needs a QB that the LB's and Safties must respect to keep the ball and hurt them on the run. Of course, that is true of any QB in any offense. However, Gus' scheme is probably more prone to needing it than others.
I also believe what never gets talked about but has been mentioned here is Gus needs a true deep ball threat. NM had some short comings in the passing game but he threw the deep ball well and had an NFL caliber WR to catch it. We have the WR's now, they were absent in 2015. We just need a QB to stretch the field.
Three things that are positive for Auburn but each comes with a "but"...the schedule is somewhat easier next season than this season "but" it's still an SEC West schedule. The D is better than 2014 "but" will likely be somewhat worse than 2016. The QB has all the tools to be what we hope he can be, "but" he still has to proof it.
2015 is a 9 win team with a serviceable SEC level QB and 2016 is a 10 win team. Neither would have won the conference, etc...but it is amazing at the difference in fan attitudes between 9-11 wins and 7-8 wins. A dynamic QB in 2016 might have been something special with a healthy backfield and that D.
I do believe Gus' running attack needs two things we haven't had since NM left. It needs a QB that the LB's and Safties must respect to keep the ball and hurt them on the run. Of course, that is true of any QB in any offense. However, Gus' scheme is probably more prone to needing it than others.
I also believe what never gets talked about but has been mentioned here is Gus needs a true deep ball threat. NM had some short comings in the passing game but he threw the deep ball well and had an NFL caliber WR to catch it. We have the WR's now, they were absent in 2015. We just need a QB to stretch the field.
Three things that are positive for Auburn but each comes with a "but"...the schedule is somewhat easier next season than this season "but" it's still an SEC West schedule. The D is better than 2014 "but" will likely be somewhat worse than 2016. The QB has all the tools to be what we hope he can be, "but" he still has to proof it.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:16 pm to Hussss
I think you're right in asserting that QB is not Gus' problem. If you really want to run an efficient and potent read option offense, you need four things: An at least serviceable mobile quarterback, a healthy stable of plug'n'play backs (preferably with one stud), a deep threat who can consistently set up his own sneak routes by providing solid edge-blocking in a run-heavy offense, and MOST importantly, a big, mobile, quick offensive line. I really think that if Gus can sell his program to enough talented lineman, he can right the ship on offense. Defensively, I think Gus has made tremendous strides since his first two seasons, largely due to his staff shakeups.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:27 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
The OL has been solid under Malzahn.... WR development has been an issue... but RB has not.
I think there's a good chance the pieces can come together next season to make auburns offense click. Things that need to happen:
- Stidham needs to stay healthy
- young WRs need to step up
- Pettway/KJ need to stay healthy
- solidly LG and RT spots
All that is doable... we'll see.
I think there's a good chance the pieces can come together next season to make auburns offense click. Things that need to happen:
- Stidham needs to stay healthy
- young WRs need to step up
- Pettway/KJ need to stay healthy
- solidly LG and RT spots
All that is doable... we'll see.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:53 pm to Hussss
Is Stidham's level of greatness before taking a snap higher than JJ's level?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:58 pm to Hussss
You're right, inability to develop QB's is his problem. Which is why he needs Stidham, transfers are his only hope.
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