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Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:00 pm to LSU82BILL
Clemson's domination of Tenn in a bowl game in 2004 was the beginning of the end of Tenn. the loss destryoed the Tenn mystique. Clemson was only a 7-4 teamm coming into the game.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:03 pm to Crimson Legend
There's a few games as an Alabama fan that stand out
1993 Sugar Bowl - this was the game that broke Miami's aura of their legendary run. Just a complete beat down physically representing Old School (Stallings) taking out New School.
1989. Iron Bowl - the first game in Auburn, this was the precursor to Auburn getting the upper hand in the rival for almost 15 years and was the de facto pink slip for Bill Curry
2007 Miss St "Crooms" Alabama and caused collapse of all confidence in Mike Shula
2009 SEC Championship - this effectively extinguished the best run in Florida's history and caused Urban Meyer to have a nervous breakdown. Florida hasn't really been the same despite appearances in the SEC title game subsequently.
2012 BCS Championship- 21-0. LSU has never returned to that level since and signaled a clear turn dominance of Alabama in the rivalry.
1993 Sugar Bowl - this was the game that broke Miami's aura of their legendary run. Just a complete beat down physically representing Old School (Stallings) taking out New School.
1989. Iron Bowl - the first game in Auburn, this was the precursor to Auburn getting the upper hand in the rival for almost 15 years and was the de facto pink slip for Bill Curry
2007 Miss St "Crooms" Alabama and caused collapse of all confidence in Mike Shula
2009 SEC Championship - this effectively extinguished the best run in Florida's history and caused Urban Meyer to have a nervous breakdown. Florida hasn't really been the same despite appearances in the SEC title game subsequently.
2012 BCS Championship- 21-0. LSU has never returned to that level since and signaled a clear turn dominance of Alabama in the rivalry.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:03 pm to VVega
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I refuse to argue with people who expose me for being a clueless idiot
FIFY
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:10 pm to Sid E Walker
True, and Spurrier felt "passed up" in lieu of Archer. Another early name was Mike Shanahan.
Spurrier always took the UF/LSU game personal. And it was Arnsbarger who made this yearly "crossover rivalry" a permanent fixture in the SEC(referencing those who think LSU did any damage to UF's program. Nope. It's still there).
In fact, we rarely won against Spurrier. The SC game last year was his worst defeat in points. It was no coincidence at all that he retired. He knows that the game has passed him by.
This is what he has professed to Saban as well. Know when to retire. I just wish Les Miles knew.
Spurrier always took the UF/LSU game personal. And it was Arnsbarger who made this yearly "crossover rivalry" a permanent fixture in the SEC(referencing those who think LSU did any damage to UF's program. Nope. It's still there).
In fact, we rarely won against Spurrier. The SC game last year was his worst defeat in points. It was no coincidence at all that he retired. He knows that the game has passed him by.
This is what he has professed to Saban as well. Know when to retire. I just wish Les Miles knew.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:06 pm to CajunBattles
I'll add one. Arkansas lost to "The Citadel" Sept. 5, 1992. I was in the stands. Ark fumbled the ball deep on the Citadel end, Citadel player scoops and scores. I was allot like those Ole Miss Students we saw last season on the 4 and 25 Hunter Henry pitch. Shock and disbelief. Result of the lost was the HC Jack Crowe was fired the next day, and Joe Kines assumed interim HC. Was a horrible season after that. Was years before the Arkansas program showed any life after that game.
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What the Arkansas fanbase didn't know yet, was how little talent was on that team. The former HC before Crowe was Ken Hatfield who bolted for Clemson site unsent 1.5 year before Crowe was fired. So while the fall was coming, and it was so many factors that would result is the Arkansas crash, it was the Citadel game that destroyed the facade, with subsequent next morning firing 2 games into the season undoubtedly making it much worse.
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What the Arkansas fanbase didn't know yet, was how little talent was on that team. The former HC before Crowe was Ken Hatfield who bolted for Clemson site unsent 1.5 year before Crowe was fired. So while the fall was coming, and it was so many factors that would result is the Arkansas crash, it was the Citadel game that destroyed the facade, with subsequent next morning firing 2 games into the season undoubtedly making it much worse.
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:08 pm to BadPiggy
Good one. Thank you for the input. 
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:38 pm to LSU82BILL
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And if Miami hadn't turned it over 4 times, they would have won that game.
BS. We had two turnovers ourselves...our QB was 4 of 13 for 18 yards with 2 INTs...and we still beat 'em by 3 TDs...they knew we were one-dimensional and still couldn't stop our run game...and their prolific offense didn't score any touchdowns. Miami was never close to winning that game...
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:01 pm to BayouRat15
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Lsu vs Refs
2004 at Auburn
2006 at Auburn
Cost LSU two SEC championships
2004 Head coach to the NFL
2006 Assistant Offense coach to Head Coach at Florida St.
Wtf?
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:06 pm to droliver
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There's a few games as an Alabama fan that stand out
1993 Sugar Bowl - this was the game that broke Miami's aura of their legendary run. Just a complete beat down physically representing Old School (Stallings) taking out New School.
1989. Iron Bowl - the first game in Auburn, this was the precursor to Auburn getting the upper hand in the rival for almost 15 years and was the de facto pink slip for Bill Curry
2007 Miss St "Crooms" Alabama and caused collapse of all confidence in Mike Shula
2009 SEC Championship - this effectively extinguished the best run in Florida's history and caused Urban Meyer to have a nervous breakdown. Florida hasn't really been the same despite appearances in the SEC title game subsequently.
2012 BCS Championship- 21-0. LSU has never returned to that level since and signaled a clear turn dominance of Alabama in the rivalry.
Well done!!! Boy, a few programs sure have stumbled after Bama beat them on the biggest stages, and I'd add 2009 Bama -vs- Texas game as well...
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:06 pm to GIbson05
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Before 21-0 people debated for months who was the better coach Miles or Saban... Think about that.. 21-0 was the turning point that Alabama and Saban were clear cut #1, and since than LSU hasn't been close to a NC and fans want him fired just because he's not having Saban like success. 21-0 broke the LSU program.
21-0 destroyed Miles, not LSU. LSU still brings in top 5 classes, wins like 10 games a year--it killed Miles is what happened. Exposed him like what Saban did to Urban.
See here:
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:53 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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From 1993-2005 Miami was 3rd nationally in win% (78.3%) (Alabama was 49th during that span.)
Massively huge span of time.
Miami 6 years prior (up until Sugar Bowl):
65-4 (2 undefeated seasons, multiple natties, was going for the 4 in 6 mark before the loss)
Miami 5 years after:
41-17 (1 10+ win season, and one losing season)
Pretty decent decline.
More so than LSU's
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:14 pm to cardboardboxer
24-21 GSU in 2013 was the death kneel for UF.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 12:12 am to cardboardboxer
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Contribute then instead of calling me names. If you (especially you) set the story straight I will believe it.
Spurrier committed coaching suicide.
1 - he named Whammy Ward his DC (and yes, A&M exposed Whammy as a Bush League DC)
2 - he named his son RC ... I didn't realize how bad it was until he was gone and HS coaches started coming forward and telling stories about the snubs by Junior.
3 - ... and this was the real killer for Spurrier's tenure. We had a Top Ten class lined-up and solidly committed. Then Spurrier comes out with his "a couple more years" comment and that was the death knell.
He committed coaching suicide.
The loss to The Citadel was under Elliott. Spurrier would have never lost to The Citadel. What happened against The Citadel, (and they've knocked off other SEC programs as has other Southern Conference teams) what happened against The Citadel was the perfect storm hit us. Whammy and Elliott combined to completely cause that one and when combined with the other turmoil ... our kids were in a daze and those cadets smelled blood.
I talked to Citadel friends of mine before that game who were guests of mine and they knew they were going to win that game. And after that game I was flat out told by someone who heard it first hand ... Herman had called and backed out. We were sitting in the Cockaboose not the least bit surprised to hear the news. I think I picked up my phone and texted a friend or two about it and none of us were surprised. I probably posted about it in the SEC Gamecock forum before the press ever got word ... and none of us could blame Herman.
I think it is going to work out fine for us in the long run - we hired a better recruiter and a young energetic staff and that's exactly what we needed this time ... the program is not dead like it almost was after what Brad Scott did to us ... Lou Holtz came in and saved the day - we're nowhere near that.
Spurrier committed coaching suicide ... and we had to let him, we owed him that.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 12:48 am to cardboardboxer
Thst was Fran 0-77 not RC
Posted on 9/22/16 at 1:00 am to VVega
2003 we crushed the soul of Alabama when we beat them in 4/5 OTs. 4th and 19 and it still wasn't good enough. Was a metaphorical reminder of the dominance Fulmer had in that series
Posted on 9/22/16 at 7:04 am to psk_Vol
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2003 we crushed the soul of Alabama when we beat them in 4/5 OTs. 4th and 19 and it still wasn't good enough. Was a metaphorical reminder of the dominance Fulmer had in that series
Congratulations and all, but Bama wasn't that good before that game and was pretty much the same after. The only program killing at Alabama was done by a fax machine receiving Mike Dubose support messages.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 7:53 am to dan765
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USC vs UGA 2015. Spurrier retired a few weeks after that game.
This, Spurrier hated UGA more than anybody. The fact that we destroyed them, and they made Greyson Lambert look like Tom Brady was too much for him to handle.
Posted on 9/22/16 at 8:01 am to DrewDawg13
You can argue that UA going down to the swamp and beating UF in 1999 killed UA's program.
It lead to Dubose keeping his job and then 2000 happened.
What a lot of people don't realize is, had Dubose lost to Arkansas in 1999 (the week after the La Tech loss), he was going to be fired and Stallings had agreed to come back.
It lead to Dubose keeping his job and then 2000 happened.
What a lot of people don't realize is, had Dubose lost to Arkansas in 1999 (the week after the La Tech loss), he was going to be fired and Stallings had agreed to come back.
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 8:45 am
Posted on 9/22/16 at 8:07 am to TheGators
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Hiring Will Muschamp killed Will Muschamp's Florida
Hiring Charlie Weiss killed Muschamp's Florida
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