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re: Professor spends year studying referees. SEC has the least biased in the P5
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:06 am to Chinese Bandit
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:06 am to Chinese Bandit
Damn it. You weren't supposed to Learn to read until after I edited 
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:06 am to Weagle25
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I said the same thing but he's actually right
Thank you
And thank you OP for posting what you thought was proof SEC is unbiased when in reality it is only biased for Bama.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 10:08 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:09 am to StopRobot
Cool, now tell them to study their competence level.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:10 am to Chinese Bandit
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LOL....it shows right here Bama less likely to be penalized.
I thought this was just a chart showing how he categorized teams and then used these categories to see if teams in each group benefited fro calls.
The chart makes no statement on calls for or against.
ETA: I concede I missed the 10% in the "Protected Flagship" category with no edit to my original post.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 10:13 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:11 am to Chinese Bandit
Big 8. 
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:12 am to Bama323_15
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The chart makes no statement on calls for or against.
Read the words on the chart....the teams that are "protected flagship" received 10% less discretionary penalties.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:12 am to Bama323_15
Read the description of the Flagship programs.
It says those teams are 10% less likely to get called for discretionary penalties
It says those teams are 10% less likely to get called for discretionary penalties
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:14 am to StopRobot
Well sure, all of our games are officiated well enough until we play Bama or Auburn. Then it's like having two opponents.
Keeps having over and over and over. But we're crazy. Got it.
Keeps having over and over and over. But we're crazy. Got it.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:14 am to Chinese Bandit
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Read the words on the chart....the teams that are "protected flagship" received 10% less discretionary penalties.
See my edit.
Give me a few minutes and I will find another angle at which to discredit this finding.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:19 am to Chinese Bandit
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Bama only "Protected Flagship" team in the SEC...just quoting the source material
Source material. SEC refs favor underdogs
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:21 am to StopRobot
Must be some other underdogs getting the benefit because it sure the heck isn't Vandy. We lose at least 1 game per year due to one horrendously bad call or ignored called. Everybody gets bad calls, and refs aren't perfect and that is ok but what really burns me up is the fact that they don't use the TV video for reviews. When the announcers say one thiing and replay the video proving it, then the refs (B'ham/Bama home office) comes up with something else, it just gets fans angry.
Have to give Mason credit this year for calling out the SEC refs several times. I wonder if he was fined. We can't beat both our opponent and the refs. Ex. They blew a whistle in the UT game that shouldn't have occurred. So our TD didn't count. Amazingly we scored again anyway. Somebody should put together clips for every school of bad calls.
Have to give Mason credit this year for calling out the SEC refs several times. I wonder if he was fined. We can't beat both our opponent and the refs. Ex. They blew a whistle in the UT game that shouldn't have occurred. So our TD didn't count. Amazingly we scored again anyway. Somebody should put together clips for every school of bad calls.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:25 am to StopRobot
Your pic says
Who Could Benefit Most From Referees
The SEC show a soft spot for underdogs. Florida might be too under though.
EDGE: ALABAMA
Who Could Benefit Most From Referees
The SEC show a soft spot for underdogs. Florida might be too under though.
EDGE: ALABAMA
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:28 am to Triple Daves
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You are bad at reading and understanding
Do you want to be the pot or the kettle?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:28 am to Triple Daves
Rogers Redding, national coordinator for NCAA football officiating
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Rogers Redding is very anti-Alabama. Watch the 1993 Alabama-Miami game. The penalty on Derrick Lassic for "spinning the ball" in the end zone was just one of the blatant pro-Miami calls. Calling back the "strip" for a non-existing offside was another.
20 years later as "expert rules commentator" during the 2013 Alabama-Notre Dame NCG, he could have diffused the rant and riot about favoritism for Alabama early on by accurately citing the applicable rule surrounding the supposed bobbled punt recovered by ND. The rule is that if a fair catch is signaled, the punt is not "bobbled" until it touches the ground. Therefore no members of the punting team can touch the ball or the punt receiver until that happens...they did. He didn't quote that rule and the talking heads continued to have a cow.
But then again...be advised that I'm under retainer to the REC.
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Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt and Harvard grad in Chemistry and Education Management
REFD THE 1993 SUGAR BOWL AND THE 1999 SEC CHAMPIONSHIP. COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT.
Rogers Redding is very anti-Alabama. Watch the 1993 Alabama-Miami game. The penalty on Derrick Lassic for "spinning the ball" in the end zone was just one of the blatant pro-Miami calls. Calling back the "strip" for a non-existing offside was another.
20 years later as "expert rules commentator" during the 2013 Alabama-Notre Dame NCG, he could have diffused the rant and riot about favoritism for Alabama early on by accurately citing the applicable rule surrounding the supposed bobbled punt recovered by ND. The rule is that if a fair catch is signaled, the punt is not "bobbled" until it touches the ground. Therefore no members of the punting team can touch the ball or the punt receiver until that happens...they did. He didn't quote that rule and the talking heads continued to have a cow.
But then again...be advised that I'm under retainer to the REC.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 10:30 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:28 am to Chinese Bandit
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Thank you
And thank you OP for posting what you thought was proof SEC is unbiased when in reality it is only biased for Bama.
read the actual study. If finds a slight bias against Bama
I know there are a lot of words. So we will be patient
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:34 am to Chinese Bandit
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Chinese Bandit
FWIW, I would not hang my hat on the game vs Florida as a way of showing bias.
And I have no doubt that the best teams get the benefit of the doubt to some degree.
I wonder if LSU or any other team in the conference was on a similar run as Bama, would they also have made the "Protected Flagship" list? If the SEC still had parity at the top would our protected flagship teams list be similar to the BIG 10.
This study does not say officials have a bias of protecting a specific team just because of the name of the team. It says officials are biased at protecting the best team(s) in each conference.
If LSU still had Saban we would probably just have LSU as the only protected flagship team in the SEC.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 10:35 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:38 am to Bama323_15
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I wonder if LSU or any other team in the conference was on a similar run as Bama, would they also have made the "Protected Flagship" list? If the SEC still had parity at the top would our protected flagship teams list be similar to the BIG 10.
This study does not say officials have a bias of protecting a specific team just because of the name of the team. It says officials are biased at protecting the best team(s) in each conference.
If LSU still had Saban we would probably just have LSU as the only protected flagship team in the SEC.
Yes...you are probably correct...if ANY Sec team was clearly better than all the others and had a chance to go all the way there would likely be bias towards them as well....doesn't make it right though.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:38 am to Jacknola
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2013 Alabama-Notre Dame NCG, he could have diffused the rant and riot about favoritism for Alabama
Stop right there. That was probably a mercy call for Notre Dame at that point. The critical penalties wouldn't have too much of an effect on a game when one team is down three touchdowns already. It's similar to baseball when a team has a big lead. Are you more apt to groove one over the plate if you are pitching just to hope the guy hits it at someone instead of fouling off tough pitches, or are you going to try and exert yourself even more with breaking balls and curve balls? Are you more apt to steal bases when down four runs in the late innings or wait to mount a rally? The refs in football know exactly when to pump the brakes on a teams' rally and it's actually much worse in the NFL. No Fun League, Now Fixed League
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:57 am to Chinese Bandit
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doesn't make it right though.
I agree.
I think this bias is more about human nature than always an intentional plan. I think most officials want to call games without bias but we tend to favor teams/people who are at the top.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 10:58 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:59 am to StopRobot
So glad he studied this for a year instead of a cure for cancer or how to feed starving people.
What a douche. Should have beastiality imposed on himself
Aggie. Carry out the punishment
What a douche. Should have beastiality imposed on himself
Aggie. Carry out the punishment
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 11:02 am
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