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re: Playoff Committee Got It Wrong

Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:46 pm to
Weren't true conference champs
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66979 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

How does a team that was #3 5 days ago fall 3 spots after winning by 55 points?


well they got jumped by an undefeated tema and a team that beat a top 25 team by 59 points.

makes sense to me. TCU didn't even win the conference outright. IF the Big 12 had any kind of integrity they Baylor would have.

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If the team was named Texas it would have never happened. Imagine if Miss St won out then got booted by OSU on the last day.


you mean won out after losing to Bama or gone undefeated?

TCU lost their conference, and the Big 12 changed to rules, and i think the committee decided to give them the finger. Good, they deserve it. Baylor beat TCU.
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2451 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:49 pm to
After beating Alabama
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26994 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:58 pm to
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Because their conference is trash for changing the rules at the end of the season.


This had absolutely zero to do with it. The committee paid no attention to any label the conference happened to put on a team. Putting a label on them had no effect on what happened on the field over the course of the season.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:00 pm to
TCU got jumped.

People are acting like TCU was penalized, but it was a case of other teams jumping them.

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Which schedule is tougher ?

OSU'S

Maryland
Rutgers
Penn St.
Navy
Kent St.
Cincinnati
Illinois
Indiana
Virginia Tech
Minnesota
Mich.
Mich. St.
Wisconsin

TCU's schedule
Samford
Minnesota
SMU
Oklahoma
Baylor
Oklahoma St.
Texas Tech
West Virginia
Kansas St.
Kansas
Texas
Iowa St.


There are 5 teams in the Big 12 that's as good or better than Mich. St or Wisconsin.

The schedules are not comparative, the OSU schedule is FAR EASIER.

And OSU had the worst loss by far.


This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:00 pm to
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well they got jumped by an undefeated tema and a team that beat a top 25 team by 59 points
Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:01 pm to
Ohio State improved their SOS and won a conference championship yesterday. All that TCU did was beat a lowly Iowa State team. Meanwhile, their quality wins took a hit with OU's loss.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66979 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:01 pm to
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After beating Alabama


TCU wasn't an undefeated team that played in a championship game.

They were a Co-Champion with one loss to the other champion. Baylor SHOULD be the Big 12 champion, and the Committee treated them as such.


Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Member since Jun 2013
19264 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:04 pm to
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They got the 4 right, but it doesn't mean TCU didn't get screwed. OSU is a big fish they couldn't leave out.


Yep. The committee is just a new wrapper on the same piece of shite.

It's remains a tilted table in the favor of the traditional blue bloods.
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
1347 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:06 pm to
Um... That Bama clapping gif is some North Korea level shite.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7799 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:07 pm to

I think people are too caught up in the old AP poll logic that teams "fall" by "SUBTRACTION" from their resume more than others rise based on how much they "ADD" to theirs.


Ohio St, FSU and Baylor simply "Added" more to their resumes than TCU in the final week when all were (according to the committee) practically in a dead heat going in.


It was more a scheduling anomaly that even allowed TCU to be ranked #3 in the first place.

They were already getting credit for their best resume games last week when all three teams in a dead heat with them still had one of their biggest ones to add.

This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 1:18 pm
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:15 pm to
They arent allowed a championship game: they play have an extra conference game as a result
Posted by Nicolae
Member since Dec 2012
1880 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

TCU got jumped.

People are acting like TCU was penalized, but it was a case of other teams jumping them


Yeah, they did, but justified by what? Ohio State winning the B1G pillow fight?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:29 pm to
That gif is so awesome
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:31 pm to
Playoff Committee Got It Wrong

Ohio State improved their SOS and won a conference championship yesterday. All that TCU did was beat a lowly Iowa State team. Meanwhile, their quality wins took a hit with OU's loss.


SO, You are basing the whole season on one game ? I posted the schedules an there is ZERO ARGUMENT that TCU's schedule is far tougher than OSU's schedule.

And OSU has by far the worst loss.

And TCU beat Minnesota 30-7 while OSU beat them 31-24



Posted by Nicolae
Member since Dec 2012
1880 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Which schedule is tougher ?

OSU'S

Maryland
Rutgers
Penn St.
Navy
Kent St.
Cincinnati
Illinois
Indiana
Virginia Tech
Minnesota
Mich.
Mich. St.
Wisconsin

TCU's schedule
Samford
Minnesota
SMU
Oklahoma
Baylor
Oklahoma St.
Texas Tech
West Virginia
Kansas St.
Kansas
Texas
Iowa St.


There are 5 teams in the Big 12 that's as good or better than Mich. St or Wisconsin.

The schedules are not comparative, the OSU schedule is FAR EASIER.

And OSU had the worst loss by far.



Exactly, but all anyone wants to talk about is non-conference schedules and continue ignoring that TCU and Baylor's non-conference schedules were tougher than Ohio State's conference schedule.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15112 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:41 pm to
OSU won 12 games this year, TCU & Baylor one 11 games. OSU is the undisputed conference champion, TCU & Baylor are not.

TCU and Baylor played and Baylor won. According to their conference's bylaws, Baylor is supposed to be the conference champion. So since conference champs count according to the committee, and since Baylor won head to head, Baylor was ahead of TCU.

Baylor's out of conference schedule killed them. They had the 128th OOC schedule (according to ESPN). Add that to the fact that they didn't play in a 13th/conference championship game, and you get that the committee thought the OSU was more deserving than Baylor.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:44 pm to
It's fortunate that a team that didn't play in a Championship game didn't get in. The playoff committee fixed what was broken in 2011.





Said it last year, will say it again, playoff will always have more controversy. #1 and #2 are almost always settled and clear cut, which is why the BCS was fine. 3-6 or 7 will always be up for debate and argued, as they'll pretty much all have the same win/loss and it'll come down more subjective components.
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17059 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:45 pm to
Money makes the world go round..osu has a top 3 fan base
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111673 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Baylor is the one that got screwed, not TCU having TCU ranked 3rd last week was the brainfart of the year


The committee out-clevered themselves the way they ranked the teams. When you're ranking teams on projected outcomes and seeding, pairings and best regional matchups and not the best team on the field, this is what you end up with.
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