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re: Peyton vs. Eli "in the clutch"

Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:38 pm to
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Peyton is like an emotion-less machine. A computer.


Peyton tightens up under pressure in big games and gets happy feet, not unlike Dan Marino in his day.

Eli doesn't let pressure or sacks unhinge him. He's cooler customer and shrugs it off to make plays.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:41 pm to
No matter what, Eli always has that stupid look on his face.
Posted by Rebelfan1985
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:55 pm to
Yep


But don't let his retarded look fool ya, he's got ice water in his veins
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:33 pm to
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Eli doesn't let pressure or sacks unhinge him.


Eli Manning was the second worst passer under pressure in the NFL in 2013. He is 2-14 in his career when being sacked four or more times and has never won a game when sacked five or more times.

So yes, he very much does let pressure and sacks get to him. Moreso than almost any other QB, in fact.

People are LITERALLY just making things up about Peyton and Eli in this thread.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:34 pm to
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Peyton tightens up under pressure in big games and gets happy feet, not unlike Dan Marino in his day.

Eli doesn't let pressure or sacks unhinge him. He's cooler customer and shrugs it off to make plays.
You made a reasonable observation, not based on statistics.


You're gonna get torn apart
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:40 pm to
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Eli Manning has more road post season wins than any QB EVER. Think about that.


He's also thrown more INTs through ten years than any QB in history.

He's also going to shatter the record for INTs returned for TDs at his current pace.

Basically, no QB in history has put his team in bad spots more consistently through ten years than Eli Manning has.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:42 pm to
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You made a reasonable observation, not based on statistics.


Except that stats proved his observation to be completely false.

I feel like I'm talking to 8 year olds.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:43 pm to
That makes no sense. Stats prove that he doesn't get nervous?
Posted by reggierayreb
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:46 pm to
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Eli Manning has more road post season wins than any QB EVER. Think about that.




How did this stat not come out til the 7th page




This combined with 2 Super Bowl MVPs and a couple pro bowls will get Eli in the HOF.... And let's be honest, he probably has some more road playoff victories in him.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:50 pm to
But he's just lucky!
Posted by Rebelfan1985
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:52 pm to
Twice lucky
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:52 pm to
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That makes no sense. Stats prove that he doesn't get nervous?


Stats prove that he does not "stay cool" when under pressure or sacked repeatedly. He's one of the worst QBs in the NFL under pressure and always has been.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:53 pm to
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This combined with 2 Super Bowl MVPs and a couple pro bowls will get Eli in the HOF.... he probably has some more road playoff victories in him.
How many more 27+ int seasons and losing seasons does he have in him? Because if it's a couple more he deserves to be in the hall of shite
Posted by genro
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:54 pm to
Different kind of pressure
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:55 pm to
Also, Eli actually doesn't have the most road wins in playoff history. Joe Flacco does with six.

So Joe Flacco is better than Peyton Manning according to many here. Let that be entered into the record.

Also, Mark Sanchez is tied for 4th in all-time playoff roads wins, along with Roger Staubach and Len Dawson.

So I think we can throw out that stat.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 5:56 pm
Posted by reggierayreb
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:57 pm to
You can hate Ole Miss as much as you want and talk shite about Eli all you want... He's still going to be a HOF QB... It is what it is... You and Roger just need to come to terms with it.

Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

Different kind of pressure


He posted:

quote:

Eli doesn't let pressure or sacks unhinge him.


Which is false.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:59 pm to
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Eli Manning was the second worst passer under pressure in the NFL in 2013. He is 2-14 in his career when being sacked four or more times and has never won a game when sacked five or more times.


How many times was Peyton sacked yesterday?
Posted by tiderider
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 6:02 pm to
1st sack was in the 4th quarter, long after the game was decided ...
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

You made a reasonable observation, not based on statistics.


You're gonna get torn apart


Yeah. We both know what our eyes see - Peyton's not as cool under heat as Eli's been.

As for getting torn apart, let 'em...




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