re: Opinion on Richt

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Right, so you're saying Dooley basically had 1 all star coach to worry about. Richt has saban and meyer in the league, had fulmer who won a title, and miles has one as well. The league is 10 times harder now than it was then. You're basically saying that what Richt is doing is more impressive.

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All those coaches mentioned possess a certain piece of hardware Saint Richt does not.

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Notice where he lives.

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You win the dumb arse post of the day award. Congratulations.

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HBTD

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Damn I have never seen a UGA fan rip into richt this much.

This post is so ignorant I don't even know where to begin dissecting it. I'll start at the top.

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Donnan was better in his last 4 years than Richt has been in his last 4.

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Donnan averaged 8.75 wins his last 4 years (10,9,8,8). Richt has averaged 9.5 (9,11,10,8) This stretch for Richt includes his 2 worst years as a coach, while Donnan's are some of his best. Donnan went 5-6 his first year, Richt went 8-4.

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Donnan should have never been fired

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WHAT!? WHY NOT!? What did he ever win? Oh yeah, he won 10 games ONCE and won the outback bowl. Richt has at least WON something of substance.

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Richt waltzed in and with the help of BVG and Donnan's recruits had some success.

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Part of being a "competent" head coach, as you like to say, is surrounding yourself with good coaches. Who exactly do you think HIRED van gorder?

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Greatest Ever? Not over the last 4 years Tonto

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WHEW! Good thing that coaches aren't evaluated based on 4 year periods. People usually use, ya know, their whole careers.

You use UT, UF, and UK in your argument.

You mention UT, UF, and UK in your argument.

Richt against UT: 5-4 Donnan: 1-4
Richt against UF: 2-7 Donnan: 1-4
Richt against UK: 7-2 Donnan: 5-0

Let's keep going against 2 main rivals:

Richt against GT: 8-1 Donnan: 2-3..unacceptable
Richt against AU: 6-3 Donnan: 2-3

I don't feel like I even need to tell you about richt's non-conference record or record on the road. Anyone who thinks Donnan was a better coach than Richt is a flat out retard. And it doesn't make it different that you only try to use select years. 4 years, gimme a F'n break.

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Donnan averaged 8.75 wins his last 4 years (10,9,8,8). Richt has averaged 9.5 (9,11,10,8)

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Try doing the percentages. Richt coached more games in 4 years than Donnan did in 4 so it makes since he won more games.

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WHAT!? WHY NOT!? What did he ever win? Oh yeah, he won 10 games ONCE and won the outback bowl. Richt has at least WON something of substance.

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His first year was damage control from the wreck Goff left him. He didn't get much of a chnce to put his stamp on the program. Richt can thank him for Greene, Pollack and every other start that turned our program around in 2002. He should have had 2 more years to make it or break it.

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Part of being a "competent" head coach, as you like to say, is surrounding yourself with good coaches. Who exactly do you think HIRED van gorder?

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CMR's initial hires were awesome and I said so many times. He fricked up when he thought he could develop coaches and promote from within. We all saw how that worked out.

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WHEW! Good thing that coaches aren't evaluated based on 4 year periods. People usually use, ya know, their whole careers.

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Actually Donnan was. Yeah it was 5 years.

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Let's keep going against 2 main rivals:

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Donnan may very well still be our coach if Jasper Sanks is not called for the Non-Fumble.

Also Donnan coached agianst O'Leary who was a much better coach against UGA than Gailey. He is 1-1 against CPJ at GT.

Richt's ship has sailed my friend. All we can do is sit back and watch the fate of Fat Phil Fulmer played out all over again.

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SoGaFan

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+1. Alot of people post when not in command of the facts.

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His inbred coordinators destroy everything BVG had built.

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BVG did not build the O. Just sayin'

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Our biggest question mark is can Richt Figure out how to get penalties and turnovers figured out.

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I'm also curious as to how Richt can "fix" the turnover problem? We've literally had one bad year in recent memory. Last year.
'08 -- 3rd fewest TOs in conference
'07 -- 2nd best TO margin in conference
'06 -- 7th in TO margin in conference.
'05 -- +11 TO margin, best in his tenure

The penalties I concede.

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He can't recruit his own State which is one of the richest recruiting grounds in the Nation

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Who are some guys you wanted him to get recently that didn't already have ties to other programs, a special situation, or were geographically closer to other programs? Cam Heyward? Allen Bailey?

I'm not a staunch Richt defender. I think WG took that role in this thread. I'm not a hater either, I think HBDT clearly took that role. I'm somewhere in the middle.

I think his fall since '05 is due to a myriad of things:

1. The conference/Tech undoubtedly became tougher.
2. BVG left as DC/LB coach (which contributed to the discipline slip).
3. A poor LB coach hire.
4. S & C Program falling behind the times.
5. Poor OL recruiting.
6. Most importantly, took him forever to fire the obvious problem coaches.

I mean it can't all be attributed to the coaches around the league all of a sudden passing him by. If anybody actually believes that then aren't very smart.

We started losing to Fat Phil even though Richt owned him early in his tenure. He beat Brooks for 3 consecutive years and then loses 2 of the last 4. Did they morph into amazing coaches overnight? No. He's 2-3 against Saban head to head, 2-1 vs Miles, 4-1 vs Spurrier. His problem was and still is Florida.

If he beats UF in '02 or either of the last 2 years then we're not having this discussion.

IMO his worst coaching jobs were '04 and '08, while his best were '02, '05, and '07.

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People are so quick to point to the causes of the downfall of the UGA program, and most don't realize that all of those problems are no longer on the staff. In the past couple years we have had MAJOR problems, that is obvious, but the proper steps have been taken to correct it.

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I agree with this. My biggest concerns were linebacker play, poor defensive game plan and theory all the way around, and kick off team/punt return team. We covered all that.

He needs to fix the penalties/discipline at this point. And S & C, IMO. I think this offseason has been pretty good so far. Zero starters in trouble. 3 guys that have been arrested. 2 booted. The other is a backup punter that probably isn't on the team anymore and no media outlet reported it