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re: Opinion about Sports on Earth's list of 100 greatest CFB coaches of all-time?

Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:39 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:39 am to
dooley being 63 spots higher than richt is comical
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:41 am to
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I think the list was a little too biased toward coaches who coached before 1960. Someone like Bobby Bowden should have been ranked a lot higher IMO.



This. If you were at a big school in the era before scholarship limits it was much easier to win than after that rule change in the early 70's. Doesn't mean those coaches weren't great but they did have a distinct advantage because they could have twice the scholarship players of teams they played against and schools could take kids just to keep them from going to their opponents. It was much, much harder for a smaller program to get off the mat.
Posted by Lige
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:56 am to
I think Bowden is too low. Hard to compare with Yost and Stagg; those old era coaches.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35481 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:00 am to
Meyer at 15 is way too low. Three championships at 51 and has the third highest winning percentage in history in his division.

Urban Meyer - Chasing Rockne
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:03 am to
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Gene Stallings is underrated on that list. He's minimum a Top 30 cfb coach of all time imho.

Great man as well.


+1. A man's man.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:13 am to
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No. 78 Gene Stallings

No. 70 Pat Dye



I understand that what Dye did at AU is forever to be remembered by AU fans. But to have Stallings behind Dye, a man he had a 3-0 record against head-to-head, is a bit silly to me. Stallings also won a national title (Dye didn't), and won 10+ games in 4 of his 7 seasons at Bama whereas Dye did this 4 times in 12 years.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:31 am to
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I understand that what Dye did at AU is forever to be remembered by AU fans. But to have Stallings behind Dye, a man he had a 3-0 record against head-to-head, is a bit silly to me. Stallings also won a national title (Dye didn't), and won 10+ games in 4 of his 7 seasons at Bama whereas Dye did this 4 times in 12 years.


Dude, Auburn was BAD when Dye got here. What he did is nothing short of amazing. I do agree that both of them should be much higher in the rankings. Also Mike Donahue deserves to be on this list somewhere.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
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26956 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:38 am to
Wallace Wade and Frank Thomas at #26 and #29 ranked higher than the greatest coaches ever at some schools.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:47 am to
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Dude, Auburn was BAD when Dye got here.

No I get it. But he was in his 9th year at AU when Stallings got to Bama. Dye's program was established by that time and Stallings still went 3-0 against him. Stallings also won a title.

I think both should be higher, but I also think Stallings should be ranked ahead of Dye (not that it ultimately matters - it's simply someone's opinion)
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes Gambler
Member since Dec 2014
3916 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:00 am to
Meyer too low
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
3338 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:55 pm to
60. Ben Schwartzwalder (Built Syracuse's program)
44. Lou Holtz
16. John McKay (Got USC winning winning titles in the modern era)
5. Fielding Yost (Built Michigan's program)
3. Nick Saban (Should be #1 and will be)

All from West Virginia. Not bad for a state with 1.8 million people.

Jimbo Fisher will crack that list someday too.

Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:00 pm to
Saban is the greatest ever and imo there's almost no argument for anyone else.

There are obviously tons of great coaches over the years, but college football is as difficult and competitive as it's ever been.

The fact he's won 5 national championships in about a decade in the toughest division of the toughest conference, at two different programs, is completely mind bottling.

Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:02 pm to
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Neyland too low imo
Posted by skrayper
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30856 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:10 pm to
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Someone like Bobby Bowden should have been ranked a lot higher IMO


He's already 9th...

Bowden, as amazing as his accomplishments are, only had to play 1-2 tough games a year. The ACC was Charmin soft then, with Miami being his only real threat (and some years, they sucked too)
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:43 pm to
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The two Aggy on the list are too low.

(Stalling and Neyland)


Stallings is an Aggie through and through. Don't misunderstand me, but he wouldn't be on the list if he didn't coach Bama.
Is that 5 Bama coaches on there? Might be one from before my time I missed.
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 4:48 pm
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:57 pm to
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I understand that what Dye did at AU is forever to be remembered by AU fans. But to have Stallings behind Dye, a man he had a 3-0 record against head-to-head, is a bit silly to me. Stallings also won a national title (Dye didn't), and won 10+ games in 4 of his 7 seasons at Bama whereas Dye did this 4 times in 12 years.



Of course Dye had to "resign" in disgrace. While Stallings did not.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:59 pm to
Bear is GOAT of all GOATs
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 5:03 pm to
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Bear is GOAT of all GOATs


Until Saban surpasses him in a couple of years.(In National Championships that is).
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 5:05 pm to
I was a bit surprised to see Darrell Royal as low as 19
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Member since Nov 2013
23882 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 5:19 pm to
Frank Thomas and Wallace Wade a little low. I'd move them up about 6-8 spots. I also think Vince Dooley is about 10 spots too high.
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