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re: "One and done is killing college basketball"

Posted on 4/10/15 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17052 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 2:15 pm to
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One OAD guy this year, sorry that Justice and probably Tyus improved enough to go into the draft their first year, Cal wouldn't know anything about that. 
I can only assume that last part is a potshot at Cuonzo Martin and the Golden Bears, because its the only way it has any merit.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78362 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 2:16 pm to
It's not just one and done. It's the whole mercenary feel of college basketball. You are applying a completely different decision-logic to Cb than I am. I'm telling you I don't enjoy the game anymore, it doesn't interest me. I've asked myself how I could have gone from a fanatical diehard to DGAF and it's the whole transitory/mercenary nature of the game.

You want me to agree with you so badly. Not sure why. Regardless, you like the game as it is played now and I'd rather watch a hockey game on tv with that four hour block of time that I used to spend going to the game.

If the young guys stuck around I'd probably stick around.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17052 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 2:21 pm to
I think most everyone agrees serious changes need to be made.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 2:33 pm to
It's not hurting college but it is hurting the NBA.
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2480 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 2:43 pm to
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If you want to see a sport where the strategy is "roll the ball out there and let them play" then watch the NBA. The only team that hasn't been like that in recent memory is the Spurs.


Horrible assessment of the NBA- right now. The 90s Jordan era was most like this. Just ugly basketball.
Posted by augrad00
Member since Nov 2010
1354 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 2:47 pm to
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NBA needs to insist kids stay in school at least 2 seasons


This is retarded. Why make these kids stay in school? Maybe they don't want to be student athletes. Why should these kids be forced to help the NCAA and schools make billions of dollars?
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 2:51 pm to
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This is retarded. Why make these kids stay in school? Maybe they don't want to be student athletes. Why should these kids be forced to help the NCAA and schools make billions of dollars?



Then why make them go to college at all? It's the NBAs rule. The NCAA isn't forcing them to stay.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25239 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 2:52 pm to
While I think one and done sucks, there should be no rule forcing kids to attend college for any amount of time.
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 2:53 pm to
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forcing kids to attend college for any amount of time.


There isn't

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The rules now state that high school players will gain eligibility for draft selection one year after their high school graduation and they must also be at least 19 years old as of the end of the calendar year of the draft.
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 2:55 pm
Posted by augrad00
Member since Nov 2010
1354 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 2:54 pm to
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Then why make them go to college at all?


Exactly. Don't make them go to college if they don't want to go to college. The Europeans let kids play professionally at 16 or 17 years old. We are forcing kids to go to college to exploit them for a few years. We don't want to pay them and don't want them to leave early to go get paid and hurt our NCAA product.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37295 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 2:58 pm to
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We don't want to pay them and don't want them to leave early to go get paid and hurt our NCAA product.


let them go, it's not going to hurt the ncaa product anymore than it's already been hurt imo.

it will at least stop the charade of these guys actually being students.
Posted by augrad00
Member since Nov 2010
1354 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:03 pm to
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it will at least stop the charade of these guys actually being students.


This. I mean these kids are only going to classes for a semester before they declare for the draft.
Posted by MsState of mind
State of Denial
Member since Aug 2013
2636 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:05 pm to
My thoughts exactly
Posted by casublett1
Columbia
Member since Feb 2015
398 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:05 pm to
I think there are pros and cons to both. With high turnover, comes low experience. Teams that have developed 3/4/5-star players (ie juniors and seniors) are on the same level. Not to mention the fact that these 5-star freshman are still a risk to build a team around. Just because their game translates to the NBA, doesn't mean they have what it takes to go the distance in CBB. Personally, I believe players should be able to go straight from high school if they want.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:07 pm to
When more players start going overseas for a year out of HS that'll change.
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:12 pm to
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When more players start going overseas for a year out of HS that'll change.



I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.. Think it'd be hard for a high school senior to turn down playing overseas for 100k for a year instead of going to college.

Disclaimer: I have no idea what people get paid to play overseas.
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 3:13 pm
Posted by casublett1
Columbia
Member since Feb 2015
398 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:28 pm to
No kidding. It's kind of a catch 22 though. Half the time, the players seem to underestimate the competition overseas and end up playing terrible and hurting their draft stock.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:31 pm to
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I haven't been an NBA fan since the Jordan/Thomas/Robinson/Byrd/Johnson/Ewing/Worthy/Rodman days.


You have missed so much good basketball.
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:31 pm to
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, the players seem to underestimate the competition overseas and end up playing terrible and hurting their draft stock


Guess that makes sense. College is obviously seen as the "next step" to most of these kids. Assume that is why so few of them are going overseas.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37295 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:35 pm to
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Assume that is why so few of them are going overseas


i would think the distance would sometimes be a deterrent too. going overseas for a guy just leaving the nest is a pretty big leap.
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