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re: Once in a generation talent - spinoff ....

Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by white beans
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:07 pm to
Honey Badger

The kid is and will forever be a legend in college football and he only played 2 years lol

click it
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Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:10 pm to
Whats weird is if you had to rank LSU athletes the top two would be Shaq and Pistil Pete (in whichever order you like).

As far as football goes, i think PP7 was pretty amazing, not gonna see a lockdown corner quite like that in a while, and TM7 was just insane.

We will never see anything like the honey badger.
Posted by Legendary0903
Tree Fiddy Green Money
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:11 pm to
Reggie White was a transcendent talent.

Perhaps Eric Berry at Safety? Manning, but more so in the NFL.
Posted by GatorsGonnaGata
Member since Jan 2014
229 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:15 pm to
For Florida... hmmm... If Harvin was 100% healthy he was probably the best to ever play his "position".
Posted by mrnegative
The great SA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:19 pm to
V. Miller, Mike and jff
Edit: also all left tackles from 2012-2014
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Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:25 pm to
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but when you yourself admit that he's not even the best player at his position within the last 5 years on 1 team in college football, it's a little absurd to say he is a once in a generation talent by the very definition of the phrase.
Nope. No, it's not. As has been illustrated numerous times in this thread for your retarded arse, Mathieu excelled in many different areas of the game, not just pass coverage. If you knew half as much about football as you pretend to, you could see this rather easily.

Again, we'll probably never see another player with his level of talent in so many aspects of the game. Seems to fit the definition perfectly.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:31 pm to
Football: Jay Cutler. The argument could be made for Stacy and Matthews, but they had much better talent around them. Cutler with a real team would have put up numbers like Murray did.

Basketball: Clyde Lee (1966) put Vanderbilt on the map and singlehandedly amped up the Vanderbilt basketball fan base. He did so much that Vandy added the balconies to increase capacity. Then athletically, Jeff Taylor (2012) deserves it. He was, and still is in NBA, a shutdown defender. He is an insane athlete. I have literally seen him catch a pass level with top of the backboard.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:32 pm to
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Nope. No, it's not. As has been illustrated numerous times in this thread for your retarded arse, Mathieu excelled in many different areas of the game, not just pass coverage. If you knew half as much about football as you pretend to, you could see this rather easily.


So you can have two "once in a generation" players in the span of 3 years on the same team? Seems legit. Guess we just have different definitions, but when I'm losing an argument I start cussing and calling names like a 12 year old too, so it's all good.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:39 pm to
The once in a generation player is dependent on the coach he plays for. What makes Bo so impressive is that he played for Pat Dye and the Wishbone most of his Career. If he had played at any other school he would have had 40% more yards rushing. Cam was great, but Gus was able to bring out his duel capabilities. The "once in a generation player" requires the stars to be aligned in many ways.
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
19087 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 1:42 pm to
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The "once in a generation player" requires the stars to be aligned in many ways.

Unless you're Herschel. Then it doesn't matter who the coach is or what the system/sport is.

Heck, he'll even win a medal in the Winter Olympics for you, I mean what the hey.

But for lesser folk - sure. I guess the stars must align and such.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:00 pm to
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So you can have two "once in a generation" players in the span of 3 years on the same team?
They don't call us DBU for nothin'.
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but when I'm losing an argument I start cussing and calling names like a 12 year old too, so it's all good.
Interesting that this statement comes the instant you're abandoning said argument. Don't blame ya. You were flailing.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:06 pm to
Except for that QB guy whose name I forget , almost all of the obvious candidates were on defense (surprisingly enough, given 2013). I don't know how to pick just one from the list below. Mike Evans should probably be on there, too, but I'd like to wait a year or two before throwing him in the mix. Johnny is the clear choice if I have to make one choice. I say "Other than Johnny, it's Lester." He gets bonus points for being the only guy below who played while I was at A&M.

In no particular order:
Lester "The Molester" Hayes.
Ray Childress. Longtime Oiler All-Pro.
Quentin Coryatt. "The Hit" would result in an ejection today. Probably just as well.
Aaron Glenn, CB, All-Pro several years
Kevin Smith, CB, I get him mixed up with Glenn frequently, but they were both outstanding.
Dat Nguyen, Cowboys All-Pro LB, despite being undersized.
Von, if the dingbat will stop smoking pot.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:09 pm to
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Herschel is not once in a generation because Bo came right after and was more talented


As far as I am concerned Bo Jackson and Herschel Walker are 1A and 1B of the two greatest athletes EVER to play in the Southeastern Conference.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:12 pm to
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Interesting that this statement comes the instant you're abandoning said argument. Don't blame ya. You were flailing.


I'm not abandoning the argument at all. I'm just resigned to the fact that you are not intelligent enough to understand the phrase "once in a generation" due to the fact that you claim 2 players from a three year span on the same team both got that distinction.

Should we edit the title to "twice in a generation CB talent at LSU" so it fits your argument? Or do we need to include Claiborne as well? "Thrice in a generation"?
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:15 pm to
I'm partial to Wuerffel.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 2:26 pm to
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As far as I am concerned Bo Jackson and Herschel Walker are 1A and 1B of the two greatest athletes EVER to play in the Southeastern Conference.


Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:41 pm to
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you claim 2 players from a three year span on the same team both got that distinction.
This is the part where we ask you to show us where I've made this claim.

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I'm just resigned to the fact that you are not intelligent enough to understand the phrase

Hmmm...
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but when I'm losing an argument I start cussing and calling names like a 12 year old too, so it's all good.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:46 pm to
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gamecocks22
/thread. There is no better answer. In essence, #5 is the greatest of all-time GOAT.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:50 pm to
quote:


I'm not abandoning the argument at all. I'm just resigned to the fact that you are not intelligent enough to understand the phrase "once in a generation" due to the fact that you claim 2 players from a three year span on the same team both got that distinction.

Should we edit the title to "twice in a generation CB talent at LSU" so it fits your argument? Or do we need to include Claiborne as well? "Thrice in a generation"?



Just because we had two of the best corners (ever) to play college ball at LSU in just a few short years does not mean that individually they are not "once in a generation" type talents.

It takes a complete dunce to think that "once in a generation talent" means literally ONCE in a generation.
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 3:57 pm to
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Just because we had two of the best corners (ever) to play college ball at LSU in just a few short years does not mean that individually they are not "once in a generation" type talents.


So, once again, just so we're clear, you are proclaiming Tyrann Mathieu and Patrick Peterson to both be in the top 10-15 players to ever play college football?

The whole point of this thread was to point out the fact that this specific phrase is thrown around too lightly. And that is exactly what you all are doing. Just because someone was a great player or All-SEC, or an All-American in a particular year. A once in a generation, while it literally does not happen once every 10 or 15 years is a transcendent talent that will be a legend decades down the road a la Bo or Herschel.
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 3:59 pm
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