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re: Ole Miss waives 25k fee.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:59 am to sugatowng
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:59 am to sugatowng
That's my thought too. I'm not sure Ole Miss knows what all is in the records currently, which is likely why they wanted their legal team to review the records beforehand. Unfortunately, their legal team was probably too busy flinging poo and picking stuff up with their feet.
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:24 am to HogX
I would assume they stalled Mars until they had a chance to review everything to make sure there was nothing that could be found that would make things bad for anyone else. Once it was reviewed they said they would waive the fee. As much as Ole Miss has paid for legal representation for this NCAA stuff, doubt $25K is that big of a deal.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:29 am to rebsfan10
Feasible. The way Ole Miss has gotten owned legally and in the court of public perception recently, they could certainly use a small win like that.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:36 am to Craig86
Mississippi law wasn't on their side on this one. They had to waive it.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:43 am to tigerpimpbot
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Yeah I get it. But why would that include OM's attorneys fees for review of the records like the article stated?
That's actually where most of the cost would be incurred. Not every record is open for public inspection. You've got federal laws like HIPAA, various things like attorney-client privilege, and simple stuff like personal information (SSNs, bank account numbers, etc) that is shielded from public view. When someone asks for a group of records, attorneys review the items before they're produced and either redact the protected information or withhold the entire document. In the case of legal discovery, they'll go so far as to create a document called a privilege log describing the general topic of each item an why it was withheld. It can be a time consuming process and lawyers don't work for free.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 4:14 pm to PanhandleDawg
Quick search of your posts shows you have nothing to add except to put everyone else down...especially anyone from the state of Mississippi. Nice way to spend your life....but hey, that is your choice.
Just found the board and love it..
Just found the board and love it..
Posted on 8/3/17 at 4:22 pm to PorkRoast
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Tom Mars is ruthless. He won't quit until there is all dirt out there.
b, b, b... but Merkel!!11!!1!1!1!1!1!
Posted on 8/3/17 at 5:57 pm to JustGetItRight
What is privileged in a list of phone numbers? The list does not contain any content such as HIPPA, SSNs, bank account numbers, or any confidences shared with an attorney.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 6:18 pm to Rhino5
Ole miss will be using that money to produce false records that don't show any pattern of misconduct.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:07 pm to tigerinridgeland
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What is privileged in a list of phone numbers? The list does not contain any content such as HIPPA, SSNs, bank account numbers, or any confidences shared with an attorney.
I was responding to the general question about why attorneys are involved in public info requests, but just for your general info nobody turns over any records to opposing parties in a lawsuit without getting them reviewed by their attorney. It doesn't matter if it is bank records or cupcake recipes.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:10 pm to JesusQuintana
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My man, they already have a laundry list of violations.
What a list too. Nothing but a bunch of minor crap labeled as tier 1.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:11 pm to tigerinridgeland
quote:HIPAA
HIPPA,
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:46 pm to matthew25
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This proves there is no NCAA violation in the records that the NCAA currently knows about.
Fixed it for you...
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:08 pm to Diamondawg
Thanks. Never very good at typing on my phone, especially if I am rushing.
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:14 pm to JustGetItRight
I certainly understand that, but there is likely to be minimal, if any information, that is privileged in a football coach's list of phone calls, and they obviously were not serious about the $25k.
And what was the rumbling about the phone not being a state phone, but the Foundation's? That seems to be gone too.
And what was the rumbling about the phone not being a state phone, but the Foundation's? That seems to be gone too.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:20 pm to JustGetItRight
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It can be a time consuming process and lawyers don't work for free.
I'm honestly surprised it wasn't more than 25k. I'm sure the firm is charging upwards of 700/hour and I remember reading there were 39000 calls in Freeze's log. 25k doesn't sound like all that much to me.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:21 pm to JustGetItRight
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nobody turns over any records to opposing parties in a lawsuit without getting them reviewed by their attorney.
And this is why discovery is the most soul sucking endevour in a lawyer's life
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:41 pm to lsufball19
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And this is why discovery is the most soul sucking endevour in a lawyer's life
IT guys working for lawyers feel the same way. One day in my life, when an attorney says they're ready to produce they'll really be ready and won't come back to me halfway through and say they need to change something or worse need to do a clawback.
When that day happens, I'm gonna retire. I'll have reached the apex of my career.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:44 pm to lsufball19
I guarantee that no lawyer was going to read and identify 39,000 phone numbers. The process of identifying the numbers will have been assigned to a paralegal or an IT person. The lawyer will look at a summary, which shouldn't take much time at all, since it is only phone numbers without any content otherwise. The only numbers that they plan to redact are those of current and former students. Those will be indentitied by some clerical person or iT person at Ole Miss or by a paralegal or IT person at the outside firm. Actual lawyer time will be pretty minimal, which ought to be clear by how quickly they capitulated. Sounds like it was more of a bluff which Mars called. They will also be supplying the numbers to members of the press who have filed public records requests.
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:28 pm to tigerinridgeland
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I guarantee that no lawyer was going to read and identify 39,000 phone numbers. The process of identifying the numbers will have been assigned to a paralegal or an IT person. The lawyer will look at a summary, which shouldn't take much time at all, since it is only phone numbers without any content otherwise. The only numbers that they plan to redact are those of current and former students. Those will be indentitied by some clerical person or iT person at Ole Miss or by a paralegal or IT person at the outside firm. Actual lawyer time will be pretty minimal, which ought to be clear by how quickly they capitulated. Sounds like it was more of a bluff which Mars called. They will also be supplying the numbers to members of the press who have filed public records requests.
Just curious, are you an attorney or are you involved in discovery in some way? I'm involved a LOT on the IT side and while it is true that an IT person or paralegal could well be tasked with identifying the names associated with the numbers when it comes to review in my experience that will be done by attorneys. I've set up viewing stations where as many as 20 attorneys sat in a room together for weeks doing nothing but reviewing thousands of phone records, e-mail messages, and the like to determine responsiveness and potential privilege issues. They simply don't farm that work out because if they mess up it won't be the IT guy or paralegal on the hook - it will be the firm and the client.
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