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re: Ole Miss police looking for men who defaced James Meredith's statue

Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:21 am to
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26636 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:21 am to
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I really don't hope they try to pull the "I was drunk and it was a huge mistake on my part" bullshite. They deserve to get kicked out and never get admitted to another major university.


A tenet of legality is that the punishment must match the crime.

Getting expelled and banned from major universities is rather harsh for, well, intolerant actions that will have no criminal and civil ramifications, IMO.
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 9:24 am
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68737 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:23 am to
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Getting expelled

Acceptable IMO

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banned from major universities is rather harsh for, well, intolerant actions.

Not officially getting banned but do you think Alabama, LSU, Texas, Kentucky or any other major university will let these kids in after they find out what they were expelled for?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54192 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:24 am to
Not reading this thread, but did the perps damage the statue?

I get Ole Miss wanting to take a stand against this type of ignorance and distance their name from the actions of a couple of idiots, but ignorant people get to make stupid social and political statements just like everyone else.
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 10:06 am
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75681 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:25 am to
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Seen them start quite a few fights in the Grove and in the Library.


starting fights in a library?


eta: i've never seen much of this frat causing shite at my school, so interesting to hear about them at OM
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 9:26 am
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26636 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:26 am to
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Not officially getting banned but do you think Alabama, LSU, Texas, Kentucky or any other major university will let these kids in after they find out what they were expelled for?


Once again, what they did is not illegal, not tortuous, nor is it negligent. It will have no legal consequences, outside of potential expulsion from the University. Nowhere in this statement am I defending the perpetrators, just merely stating facts. Their actions were reprehensible.

I'm thinking that whichever University doesn't allow them in will be sued for discrimination themselves.

Seriously though, if they're 19-20 year old kids, why not let them back into higher education? They still have, roughly, 60 years to contribute to society.
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 9:28 am
Posted by Oxford
Memphis, TN
Member since Nov 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:27 am to
I can see this going unsolved. I really doubt the clowns who orchestrated this would've told anyone.
Posted by RebFeBrees
Pensacola, FL
Member since Dec 2009
13855 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:27 am to
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I really doubt the clowns who orchestrated this would've told anyone.



You really think this? Really?
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26636 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:27 am to
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Not reading this thread, but did the perps damage the statute?


Negative.

Their actions were neither criminal nor were they tortuous.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24941 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:28 am to
If they are students they will probably get caught. If they aren't...I doubt they will be.
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:29 am to
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Their actions were neither criminal nor were they tortuous.



I'm sure they could be pegged for vandalism.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24941 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:29 am to
Someone's in law school.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26636 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:30 am to
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starting fights in a library?


The Library is a massive bar on the Square. Huge.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19456 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:30 am to
Agreed. frick them. Maybe they'll get raped by the BBC.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24941 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:31 am to
I already got raped by the BBC. The new season of Sherlock sucked.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68737 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:32 am to
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Their actions were neither criminal nor were they tortuous.

Vandalism isn't criminal?
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26636 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:33 am to
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I'm sure they could be pegged for vandalism.


Researching the Mississippi vandalism statute now although I'm sure there's a federal statue or case law on point seeing as how it's Ole Miss is a public university and the statue itself is a monument.

Posted by Oxford
Memphis, TN
Member since Nov 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:34 am to
Yeah. If I had to guess, it was a drunken stunt that apparently sounded like a hoot at the time. Probably woke up the next morning and knew they fricked up.I mean it could've been discussed between a group but who knows? I fricking hope they get caught
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 5:40 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54192 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:36 am to
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Vandalism isn't criminal?

Usually vandalism has some element of damages involved. Not sure if this would qualify in MS or not.

Suppose someone would have placed flowers on the statue or hung a medal around its neck...would that be criminal?
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 9:38 am
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24941 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:40 am to
Can this be considered a hate crime?
Posted by Oxford
Memphis, TN
Member since Nov 2013
1921 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:42 am to
I would think so
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