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re: Ole Miss case could get bigger

Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:10 pm to
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I am not of the mindset that we dont cheat because I think all 5 star players and most 4 stars get paid, but can someone explain why OM cant consistently have elite recruiting classes if the sole reason we had one in 2013 and are having one in 2016 is because we are buying players while the schools we are beating out for kids are not ? Are we so poor that we needed to reestablish our slush funds during 2014 and 2015 recruiting classes?


Well, they did have pretty good classes in 2014 and 2015.

The biggest issue is that Ole Miss is beating out other teams for kids that they normally couldn't beat; i.e. LSU, Bama, Tennessee, Texas, Auburn, UGA. When that happens, you better expect those teams to start wondering what's going on especially after years of average seasons. So, that's basically it.
Posted by DMagic
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:12 pm to
We are playing ball that's all. The big schools are the ones who pretend they don't cheat.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:14 pm to
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We are playing ball that's all. The big schools are the ones who pretend they don't cheat.


pretty much. However, big schools don't like to share.

Especially if the team wasn't performing really well years prior. It perks their ears up.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:15 pm to
The '13 class had many unique connections that we aren't normally fortunate to have though. Treadwell' best friend played at OM, R.Nkemdiche's brother was coming off a freshman AA year, etc.

Tunsil was a head scratcher, but his brother got a scholly (probably his only one) so that sort of made sense
Posted by TMRebel
Oxford, MS
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:15 pm to
It's just odd that we're only paying kids when we actually beat people out for recruits, but last year when Tennessee beat us out for Richmond, NO ONE cried foul when they have had some below average recent seasons.

Its just all silly recruiting talk. The "big" schools are all paying kids until they lose one to another school, and suddenly its a systemic problem for other colleges to pay kids like they are.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:18 pm to
Big schools also don't have to cheat as much. When Alabama, for example, can pretty much guarantee that you make it to the NFL, that goes a long way. Not even considering the fact that a lot of these kids grow up fans of theirs.


Which is why I wish you had to attend school in your state if you want to receive a scholarship. Especially when my tax payer dollars are paying for your arse to get through Highschool.
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 3:21 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:19 pm to
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cbi8




Just goes to show what naked adrenaline can do for your competitive spirit and why streakers, back in my day, were all 4.4 fast.

Anyways, my new favorite gif. Thank you.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:21 pm to
Of course they don't. I understand though it's hard enough recruiting against each other for another team to start pulling guys they normally have no shot with. Even after losing high profile guys the last couple of years(too many to name) we are still recruting better OOS than ever before.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:25 pm to
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Big schools also don't have to cheat as much.




Laughable of course they do. All high profile kids require some incentive regardless of the school recruiting them. Alabama has the best and biggest network so to speak. They also have the best recruiter to ever live so you see the results. The reason the blue bloods can do so is because they're old money. Tennessee for example isn't going to stay on the deck forever because they've got the studs to go after whomever they want.
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:25 pm to
Has anyone put out an APB for RebelGator? He melted for weeks over losses to UGA basketball. I'm genuinely worried for his safety.
Posted by Tdot_RiverDawg
Member since May 2015
1701 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:26 pm to
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Treadwell' best friend played at OM

What happened to Standifer? I believe he was "dismissed shortly after Treadwell made it to campus.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46460 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:27 pm to
He smoked grass too much. He wasn't dismissed until right before last season.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69912 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:29 pm to
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but last year when Tennessee beat us out for Richmond, NO ONE cried foul



ARE YOU frickING KIDDING????



Your fanbase went full fricking retard, accusing us of cheating, even resorted to twitter threats, Quicksilver still accuses us of paying Drew Richmond.


Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46460 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:32 pm to
You did pay Drew Richmond but there's nothing wrong with that
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:34 pm to
I think you're also just realizing the effects of being a major recruiting program. LSU, Bama, UGA, UT, Auburn constantly get called cheaters and P4P schools. Well, now you're getting it too.

Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46460 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:38 pm to
I don't throw stones at programs doing what's necessary and make no mistake it's necessary. However I do take offense when it's used as the only reason kids choose us in February. If Freeze was a shitty recruiter we wouldn't even be getting in the door with kids.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17320 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:42 pm to
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We are playing ball that's all. The big schools are the ones who pretend they don't cheat.




Its a little more complicated than that. I don't buy even a fraction of what the "insiders" say goes on but the bigger schools are coordinated and have learned to be much more creative. The rumor mill doesn't speak that way about OM.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41922 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:43 pm to
Wait, I thought your program was already shut down?

:da hell:
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46460 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:46 pm to
No it's really not more complicated than that. We aren't supposed to be playing ball which is what's got people's panties in a bunch.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69912 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 3:46 pm to
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You did pay Drew Richmond but there's nothing wrong with that






We didn't have to pay Richmond, he couldn't wait to frick Ole Miss over. We're Tennessee, YAOM, and TCU just scored again.
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 3:48 pm
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